Events bringing the trolls out from under their bridges, and how to fix it.

I don't know about you but man I hate expertise with a burning passion. Lets grab everyone that thinks expertise is dumb as hell, time travel to when the idea of expertise and tell them how stupid it is. Now if they still wouldn't remove it, then I suggest a stoning.

Yeah and the reason why it gives you a thousand comms is to make it slightly more worth it. Had it given you like 250 for both the "pvp" missions then it would be a waste of time. Basically the pvp in swtor is jacked up and the event just made it worse.

I don't see the point of this thread. I am a quester, now, but even I know that when you walk into a PVP area you should be ready to fight. It's kind of the point of making the area "PVP." If you don't want to get attacked, I'd do the quests that don't go into those areas.

Why do people even make silly statements like this? Sure, you thought it would be Woodstock and everyone would sit around holding hands and singing Kumbaya....sure you did, lol.
Dude, it's a freaking PVP quest. It's clearly marked as a PVP quest. It's in a PVP free-for-all zone. It's a PVP quest....not a PVE quest....and the obvious part of it that is PVP is that you have to survive attacks from other players while completing the quest. The amount of crying and whining over this is ridiculous and has gone on constantly in general chat every day that this event has run.....all 3 times it's run. There is absolutely no reason to run these if you don't want to PVP....especially since the rewards aren't all that good if you take out the warzone commendations which you won't need since you don't PVP. Problem solved....crisis averted.

I am just going to reword what everyone that is upset about the "crying" says; If you have such a problem with people complaining about it why not just avoid it? along with this forum? No one likes people who camp the mission and ruin your time end of story.

Actually the game was made and promoted as a Story Based MMO, not a pvp warzone that carries no story advancement in it.

BioWare died when the founders quit in April 2012 and the layoff in May wiped out top people involved with SW:ToR.

ea is known for Sports, they are lost, and it has shown ever since that time.

The love of the game is the STORY.

pvp is a side game like space missions.
PvE advances the story arcs.

There are plenty of pvp only games that are well made and balanced that you could try.
Of course you would be doing pvp against pvp all the time and there would be no PvE server for you to hide on.

Wrong :-)

Queue is the fastest way to complete the quest
Because when it goes to mess - nobody could use the trigger... everybody starts hunting players with the orb and it really slowers the game for all
even if you have a full team - you couldn't withstand against dozen of other players who just want to kill you
And it is not faction vs faction - it's your team vs all other players!

it is.
but the quests are PVE in their sole and so PVErs are doing them
besides it's a good way to get WZ comms for some PVP relics which were the BIS for PVE sometime ago :-)

i am not complaining about ganging in that zone

but i think that is an ugly way to create an "open world" PVP
i saw other ways of that and it can be done better

for example:

you have a planet
both factions are to conquer it

first phase - you need to capture and hold some locations (earth-2-air missiles batteries for example) from NPCs (natives or opps faction), it can be a kind of Flashpoint or open world so other faction players could interfere.
for holding that locations you got some strategy points (may be even other faction holding such locatins put down your points or get their own ones), when you'll get enough points you can attack the capital.

second phase - at certain hour two factions clash at the battle for the planet's capital.
it could be 2 stages - space battle first and earth operation then if attackers manage to clear the sky and dropship temselves. their should be also NPCs for every side, amount of them depends upon amount of strategy points every side have.

it's a kind of PVP event and the wining side will get some cookies - unique gear or relics or crafting mats or titles or all that in one box :-)
there can be also a ladder for active players and guilds

And on and on and on. Just stop it already. This is the only argument the pro-ganking crowd is bringing up, and it fails.

I don't buy any of this totalitarian crap. PvP is not an take it or leave it option. There is legitimiate PvP activity with these quest (resource contention) and there is the ganking stuff people complain about.

Having an area flagged PvP doesnt give you a jerk license. It doesnt authorize you to stalk people for hours. And above all it doesnt give you ownership of an area!

The pro-ganking PvPers here behave like some kid that joins a boxing club with the stated objective "to beat up people". No, that's not how it works.

The quests create specific incentives that invite PvP, and within these incentives I am quite willing to accept PvPing. But your claim that I consent to getting randomly ganked by folks in uber-gear and big numbers all the time is simply completely rubbish.

If you hadn't noticed, the pylon mobs in the pvp area are weaker than in the pve area, it's risk vs reward