Events bringing the trolls out from under their bridges, and how to fix it.

I agree that it's kind of silly to make PvE quest objectives in a PvP area. Especially if you're a lower level (54 and below). I don't do those dailies because I have 5 characters that are doing those dailies - so what I lack in number of quests, I make up for in sheer amount of times I do said quests.

That being said, if you are pressured into doing it because you really want that armor/mount/pet/weapon and you only have 1 or 2 characters to do the dailies so you kinda gotta do the PvP ones - don't think of it as a PvE objective in a PvP area. Think of it more like ''The object is to do [x] while putting your life in someone elses hands' because in essence; that's whats happening - even more so if you're lower level - you can only hope that either the person attacking you is the same level, or they aren't interested in killing you.

I also recommend doing the PvP missions last - as that way you won't get flagged until you're done with the other dailies, so you can make a quick getaway to the dropbox.

Bull-logna.

Tried event five times first time around, never went into pvp area and ended up flagged each time. Still not sure how. Each time griefed by groups of 20+ players, mostly when at half heatth after fighting champ mobs.

I only play this game because wifey does and when she is not playing I play other (imo better) mmos. After the last time being griefed wifey will not go back to gree event, so we do not do it.

I greatly respect pvp players who are talented and good at their craft. Unfortunately, that is a small part of them and imo most are poor low skill ******* who get a kick out of giving others grief. One person at the beginning of the thread said that he/she will take down small groups of pvpers who are griefing. I must admit that I really enjoy doing that as well, perhaps I am a retarded pve player.

I agree with the point that this is another example of poor design and pve players on a pve server end up putting up with bottom feeder pvp players. I don't see a talented pvp player getting anything out of going after helpless victims.

why the hell do you people think there needs to be a gosh darn reason to kill someone, you PVP to SEE DEAD PEOPLE WHILE YOUR STILL STANDING... THE END

People who care about K/D and need an incentive to PVP are tools big giant super tool that break often :P

Anyways this is getting old fast as hell stop crying and go kill 2 worldbosses and get double the rep you get from the PVP area.

If your issue is with the game pvp flagging you (outside of a pvp zone) when you don't want to be flagged, then take that issue up with the devs and I'll support you fully. But that separate bug/exploit issue has nothing to do with the pvp zone itself. By entering the pvp free for all zone you are agreeing to allow yourself to be pvp flagged, and you are then free game to anyone that wants a fight.

And by the way, most of the time I've seen someone get "flagged" in a pve area, where they had no intention of doing so, its because they accidentally tab targeted onto me or someone else that was flagged and attacked. That's not the games fault, thats just an individual mistake.

Take it up with the devs? Surely you are kidding.

We all must be considerate and realize that there is an extensive list of customer input that is being ignored. The last thing that they need is another issue to not consider.

PS - I have seen pvp / flagged players run or stealth into aoe casts of pve players to cause them to become flagged. That can be part of the reason but still is greifing (causing someone to become flagged in a non pvp area so that you can attack them). There are also some abilities that do hit multiple mobs (flagged players) in an area whether or not you intend to. If that causes you to get flagged, it is poor design because a pve player (other than not castng some abiities) has no control.

Aoe's are not supposed too, as supposedly this was patched last year because of all the idiots griefing lowbies by sleathing into their aoe; but who knows if it's still bugged or not. However, the point is the game mechanics are not supposed to allow that to happen. So don't complain about the pvp player that killed you, complain that they won't fix the stupid bugs.

PS If I see a flagged opposite faction toon, I have no way of knowing whether they want to pvp or not, if I wait and don't initiate they could get the drop on me, therefore I attack. So morale of the story is if you don't want to open world pvp, don't flag and if you get flagged because of broken game mechanics go back to a safe area and unflag.

And no I don't enjoy ganking solo players repeatedly while I'm grouped. In fact the last fight I had this morning on Ilum was 1 v 3 ...... and I jumped them.

True, not sure if it is working or not. My comments are just based on my first experience with the event and perhaps things have changed since then. Although things have improved somewhat over time, I still laugh when I play in Bug Town, seems very descriptive to me. Since my wife will not try the event again, I have no reason to see how things are playing out now.

I think that you are right on in that if you see a pvp flagged player, you have to assume that he/she is there for pvp and go for him/her especially considering that the initial attack can determne the outcome of the fight.

If I met you while I was accidentally flagged and you kllled me, that is all good. I will do my best to kill you and a fair fight is exactly that. You are obviously one of hte pvp players that deserve respect. I do not believee that the issue is with someone like you, but rather with the bottom feeders that roam in groups with the only purpose of giving defenseless players a hard time. Unfortuately, there seems to be an aweful lot of them. They give pvp a bad name and cause pve players to hold pvp players as a group in low esteem.

PS - My last pvp fight was in that other game. I caused it by doing what you said. I tabbed him by accident and hit him with an attack. As a result, he and three guildies fought me. At the end of the fight, I was dead, but three of the group were dead as well and the fourth did not have much health left. I know how to play my class and pay attention to my armor. The fight left me feeling good all day and indeed I did not have the helpless victim feel.

I just dont understand the basic concept of entitlement that makes someone who doesnt want to PvP go into a free for all area to complete PVP quests, and expect not to be attacked and left unmolested.

It entirely boggles my mind.

The quest is PvP, regardless of it having PvE objectives. It awards PvP comms... if you dont want to PvP you dont need PvP comms. So dont go into that area. You arent entitled to finish every quest that pops up just because its in your log. if you want to complete the quest, you simply need to accept that you might be delayed by...PvP.

The removal of Bolster (to fix the levelling exploits) gives free reign to the PVPers that enjoy ganking. Re-enable that for level 50+ and at worst the PVE players will have a fair chance of getting away from unwanted PVP assaults.

THIS. PVP isn't just "kill the other guy". A lot of PVP has objectives. This is PVP with objectives. Don't want to PVP? You don't have to go for these objectives. Do the 10+ PVE objectives and let the PVP players have their measely TWO.