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bigheadbrandon
05.23.2013 , 01:55 PM | #111
I wanted to participate but then I realized the only character I've minmaxed has been a tank so I parsed my tank
http://www.torparse.com/a/245616/2/0/Damage+Dealt
can i be on the leaderboards until more people upload parses~

guardian - defense -36/8/2 - 946dps
TIA

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arkitip
05.23.2013 , 03:00 PM | #112
My goal when I'm parsing is to get as close to 5 or 6 minutes as possible and then stop. I won't parse for extensive periods of time and look for a best 5 or anything like that because I don't feel it is indicative of the ACTUAL game. Raid DPS on Ops bosses involve RNG. You will have bad runs with your procs. You'll screw up and use the wrong ability, etc.

I agree with Grimsblood, set a time. It's how I generally look at the really high DPS parses anyway. I find where they actually started combat and clip it@5 minutes.

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Carlenux
05.23.2013 , 03:04 PM | #113
Quote: Originally Posted by Grimsblood View Post
I don't think it has to be 5 minutes; so long as everyone uses the same time frame. If that where to be 10 minutes or 7 minutes and 27.34 seconds it wouldn't matter to me. The point is, you can cut the log where you want to inflate the numbers.......that should not be happening (see my example above regarding golf for reason as to why it matters on a list such as this).
Tbh i think you are having a huge nerd rage here lol (no offense) but its kind of pointless in my opinion doing so many "rules" to the parse, the start trim, is understandable, boarder made a good parody of it, make sense, the rest, is i dont know, you trying to be the top parse? i dont understand, we CANT compare, most people use biochem, most people use blue biochem (better stat), some people dont use adrenals, some people have less lag than others, it varies.. if you want Parse to cut at 5 minute, what everyone will do is save the bomb at 4:50 and do it to get a peak dmg/dps.... it is dummy dps = find the way you can do to maximize your dps with ideal situations that wont happen.

there are a lot of factors and RNG, everyone here know, the top parse on every class are normally "lucky" parse... myself i did that 1964 and i havent been able to repeat, fall short at 2940-50, simple, so anywhere between 100-150 under the top ranked parse is actually the AVG. good dps for that class.

the same way Boarder said.. you are not in a styrak fight and when u are at 5 minutes with 2800 dps you do /KillStyrakForMy5MinuteParse do you?...so 5 is just a number to simulate the quickest possible boss fight, if you want to measure real numbers do in TorParse boss Fights, which are inaccurate as well, some fights are longer, some fights have different strats, different groups, better dps group = higher dps = shorter fight.

So my point is on this argument, start trim = invalid... done... ending trim after 5 minutes = Valid... done... do the parse with that rule, post your best number, compare to the rest with same rules, as a matter of fact i am sure 90% or more of the game population dont even bother Parsing dummy + uploading + posting here, so even if you are 1st ranked here thinking you are top one, theres a BIG chance there are a few more people that parse the same or higher... Same with Torparse bosses, everyone parse, mayority just dont post it, even with group upload i cant make my group to post it, where my 3 other dps have same dps sometimes higher than me, and i am top 1-15th in like almost every fight, they dont like to upload, thats their problem, not mine, and like them, there are probably 10-20-30 more guilds / DPSers that do the same, achieve an insane number, and dont care (like us, i am one of those that love this, so not judging) and dont post it

Conclusion: follow the rules, post your numbers, compare with the people here, knowing there is a big chance there are quiet a few people that are probably better / higher parse than you / us, than simply, dont upload them. most of the people in good guilds here are at around the top, in my server, i am sure no one in this thread have ever heard of Tyranny... 100% sure if u are not in the Harbringer, and i know by fact that beastfury has beaten and been top 1-3 ranked mara since TorParse is up, so being in the "best guild in your server" doesnt mean you have the best "DPS". Tyranny is the 5-6th Ranked guild in my server, him and tralt lead almost all rankings, like them there are probably 5-10 more on each server.

PD: my main language is not english, so dont start like people in reddit being a Grammar Police here thx
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paowee
05.23.2013 , 04:43 PM | #114
Quote: Originally Posted by Carlenux View Post
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I like to use parses to compare between same spec/class, not different classes. Check this quick one i made for Engineering over at the Sniper forums. I cropped the fights so they start at the beginning and end at 5min 11secs
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odawgg
05.23.2013 , 04:48 PM | #115
Nerd rage haha...I think most people on this thread would be proud of that, including me, proud to be a nerd!

None of it matters, the OP has the rules, live with them, "valid, done"

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Carlenux
05.23.2013 , 05:16 PM | #116
Quote: Originally Posted by paowee View Post
I like to use parses to compare between same spec/class, not different classes. Check this quick one i made for Engineering over at the Sniper forums. I cropped the fights so they start at the beginning and end at 5min 11secs
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yeah i know, it just seems like people are trying to, or at least him (once again, not being rude), prove different points on other parses that we already know its "invalid" different rules, our Harbringer post is invalid here, i fixed the Parses on myself and beastfury just to reduce the start trim... so i know you can prove different points on how it is invalid, and the many different factors that each class/time/buff/CS can have, but i think we all know them , we know we wont compare "invalid" parses with his parse, and thats it, the rule says Can trim with a min. 5 minute, thats the rule, play with it
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Carlenux
05.23.2013 , 05:19 PM | #117
Quote: Originally Posted by odawgg View Post
Nerd rage haha...I think most people on this thread would be proud of that, including me, proud to be a nerd!

None of it matters, the OP has the rules, live with them, "valid, done"
hehe not an insult, i am one of the biggest swtor nerds lol, just thought it was the "correct" friendly term there lol, anyways people should encourage their own servers to Parse here if we want more comparison, at this point this looks like it has 10 parses lol and the rest of the thread is conversation between Suckafish members, SG (saw your guild names in sign. dont remember everyones name :P), myself, and Start Trim Topic, but no Parses lol
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Arch_Angel_Gabe
05.23.2013 , 07:41 PM | #118
I think these threads are fun, but in no way represent average DPS. For example, If you use Keren's simulation for Mercenaries and set the runs to two (you can't do one, IIRC) you can see WILD swings in DPS over 5 minutes long. Several hundred DPS swings! imagine if you could do 'single runs' with his simulator. I also noted a commando's parse on the Harbringer who crit nearly 40% of his full autos! It isn't just how often you crit, but what abilities you crit on.

I am trying to get the DPS in my guild to understand that the Operations Dummy is a tool to use, as noted by Pizza'Da'Hutt. Truly, it is very important. On a side note - The last few times I went to the dummy, I am getting huge ability lag and things triggering the cool down, even tough abilities didn't go off. This is on my own personal ship dummy on Jedi Cov... Anyone else experience that? It probably happens 15-20 times during a 5 minute parse. I know I read a thread somewhere here about that... Anyone know how to combat that? It isn't internet lag, or video lag. Like animation lag that triggers the GCD.

It happens quite a bit on my sentinel as well. In fact, almost every time I use Blade Storm, it starts the animation, but doesn't actually go off and it triggers the GCD. So annoying...

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Ansalem
05.23.2013 , 10:26 PM | #119
yeah GCD and combat lag has gotten worse since last patch. There are other threads blaming it on the collections system etc. I wish they would fix it my dps parses have been taking big hits.

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Arch_Angel_Gabe
05.24.2013 , 06:31 AM | #120
Quote: Originally Posted by Ansalem View Post
yeah GCD and combat lag has gotten worse since last patch. There are other threads blaming it on the collections system etc. I wish they would fix it my dps parses have been taking big hits.
Yep. I can consistently hit 2500-2600, which is probably my 'average' but the last few times I have gone, I can't even muster much past 2300 due to the ability lag. I don't have my smuggler through the class story yet, so I have to keep begging for the critical buff. Then I head to my ship dummy to find horrible lag. Of course, this is during peak hours... I might finish up my smuggler this weekend, so I can try to ops dummy at like 3:00am in the morning or something like that to see if it is any better. The ability lag doesn't seem to happen in FPs or Operations, but is super bad on Makeb. There are times when I never experience this. All the while, my internet connection is solid at 68ms with all four bars.

The last few times I have been booted from the server, I noticed that Jedi Cov is 'heavy population' so I wonder how much that affects versus a lower population server.