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Events bringing the trolls out from under their bridges, and how to fix it.

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Events bringing the trolls out from under their bridges, and how to fix it.

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DarthMaulUK
05.23.2013 , 12:43 AM | #11
If you don't like it, either go back to the Sims or dont venture into a PvP zone.

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MalDeChagas
05.23.2013 , 12:50 AM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by Artanisia View Post
No, you play because you love to grief other players
PVPing in a PVP area, no grief involved. People who trick people into flagging are griefers. If you wander into a PVP zone on your PVE server, it was your choice to partake.

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Artanisia
05.23.2013 , 12:53 AM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by darthmauluk View Post
if you don't like it, either go back to the sims or dont venture into a pvp zone.
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Noodlepoop
05.23.2013 , 01:04 AM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by metalfenix View Post
I agree, those of us on PvE servers should not be bothered with this Open world PvP sections, if people want PvP, go do your warzones, or change servers.
And on PvP servers should be no FPs and operations. And on RP servers should be no quests and warzones at all! oPvP zones exist so that those who like to do both PvE and PvP (or PvPers who choose this server because their friends rolled there) can have some oPvP.

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waterboytkd
05.23.2013 , 02:25 AM | #15
PvPer here. I love it. It is the ONLY endgame stuff I do. But I gotta agree with the OP. The PvP Gree quests aren't PvP. They're PvE quests jammed into a PvP zone. That doesn't make them PvP quests as you don't have to actually play against other players. I would love to see these quests reworked into true PvP quests (kill X players, or kill X orb carriers alongside deposit X orbs in a continuiously active pylon). Just my 2 cents.

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DarkSaberMaster
05.23.2013 , 02:59 AM | #16
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Asavrede
05.23.2013 , 03:02 AM | #17
PvP areas really have no place in events like these. Best case, they only bring out the griefers.

If you want open world PvP, make dedicated areas for it, and ... heck, there's no reason to even finish that sentence, since the engine can't handle PvP of any sort of meaningful scale.

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DaxCalvo
05.23.2013 , 03:19 AM | #18
I am not a PVPer. I don't worry about expertise. I'm on a PVE-RP server. I've never stepped one digital foot inside a Warzone. I love questing. I love PVE. I love soloing.

But for serious, quit crying about this.

This event gives you 4 repeatable, daily, pure-PVE quests, plus another one once you get authorization to enter the Gray Secant. It gives you 3 World Bosses to fight, who work into 2 of the 3 non-repeatable pure-PVE missions. The only things this event contains that you cannot earn without enterring the PVP zone are a non-combat pet (which is dropped from a very rare spawn anyway!) and Warzone comms, which as a non-PVPer you shouldn't care about anyway.

If you don't want to risk getting attacked in the PVP zone, there is one very simple solution: Don't do the PVP missions. Do the other 5, fight a World Boss if you're feeling up for it, and call it a day. No one is forcing you to do the two missions which are CLEARLY marked as PVP. No one is forcing you to enter the area that gives you clear warning that you are about to be flagged for PVP.

PVP players subscribe too. PVP players buy stuff from the Cartel Market too. This is their game too. You get 9 things to do in this event as a PVE player (5 daily missions, 3 World Bosses and a one-time, multi-planet quest) that do not risk any PVP. They get 2 geared toward them. Let them have their fun, just stay away if it ruins yours.

BTW, I do the PVP missions. If I get ganked, I shrug it off, switch instances, and hope there are no gankers in that instance. Its not a huge problem. Travel back down there isn't even an issue thanks to the teleporters. The missions are quick. I do them and get the heck out.

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Turshek
05.23.2013 , 03:38 AM | #19
Thoses "PvP" missions are in no way necessary, you can get what you need without putting a foot in the FFA PvP area. It might take a little longer or require you to run the other dailies with one more alt but it's already really easy to earn repuptation.

That said, I do agree it's a bad design. Thoses "PvP" missions aren't PvP missions, they are PvE missions in a FFA PvP area. PvP missions should reward people for engaging in PvP, not for clicking on some PvE objects.

BW doesn't seem to understand that most players during thoses limited time events want to get reputation/token or whatever the currency for the event is as fast as possible. Anything that somehow decreases how efficiently you can progress is considered annoying or bad design. That's why people were waiting in lines even on PvP servers to do thoses missions, it's seemed more efficient than starting some chaotic FFA PvP.

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SleepyJoeFriday
05.23.2013 , 04:05 AM | #20
As others have said, just give the PVP area missions a miss. It's no real biggie.

What's worse is that it is so easy to become PvP flagged by accident whilst completing the PvE missions.