Concerns About Players Being Suspended

Firstly, not everyone reads pages and pages of patch notes or watches preview videos. That particular point was buried in the middle of the patch notes and I for one skim over a lot of stuff. Especially after seeing a big list of different cartel discounts being applied and removed.

Secondly, the TOS refers to bugs and taking advantages of game mechanics that give an unfair advantage. Given that these people were using a method IMPLEMENTED and INTENDED by BW to transfer BOUND items between characters how the hell do you think they were to assume that it was a bug or an unintended game mechanic? Why would you assume, given that any other bound crystal/mod/enhancement/armouring can be transferred between alts within legacy equipment, that doing so with Cartel items was specifically not allowed? I know I wouldn't. Given that the system has been in place for the last year or so I would see that as being an intended game mechanic and NOT an exploit or bug that gives an unfair advantage.

Argue it how you like, you're basically blaming everyone for a major screw up on BW's behalf. It wouldn't even be an issue if BW didn't go and mass suspend everyone. It's a pretty poor response and just makes it clear that if them losing money is involved they will move to stop unintended behaviour pretty bloody quickly. Meanwhile the game is still full of bugs that have been around for over a year.

This. This. This.

So much this.

And I don't even know the first dang thing about this process, couldn't tell you how to do it, not interested in finding out.

But holy hell yes, what this poster above said. You can't punish players for using the system you implemented in the manner you indicated that you intended it to be used because you suddenly figured out that, holy crap, it means they won't be paying you $5 per character for the privilege of using the system. That's your problem, not the players'.

How come cartel market is not pay to win now? People did grind for weeks to get their legacy weapons. Not all players have them. Its weeks of effort to get one and now they're not even allowed to use it? I really assumed this was working as intended and I praised it few days ago on forums here. Paying cc allows u to skip a very long weapon grind + make an account unlock. Exploits are when something is achieved really easily. This required me to spend additional hours to get the necessary item which was included for the sole purpose of sharing items between the legacy (not account). Too bad Bioware didn't address it when it was brought to their attention much earlier.

Whatever I did - it didn't even get me a slight advantage (and that's what exploits are supposed to do!).

And I can't see which thing in the patch notes ppl are referring to.

I wonder what would happen in the following scenario:

You have 2 bound white Hawkeye crystals on your main character.
You duplicate 2, send over the 2 non duplicated ones as they are not the for free ones.
I mean, that's what players are doing since we got the first legacy weapons at the chevin event.

And now all of a sudden they mark a feature they gave us as an exploit?

Come on BW, this is so wrong and you know it.

The thing is, we have NO IDEA why these accounts were banned.

I don't think it had anything to do with sending crystals to your alts.
I think the collections system sent off a massive false positive on someone's exploit script.

My husband's account was banned for a week. He payed money out the wazoo to have all his crystals and outfits account unlocked.
He didn't mail anything to his alts as he didn't need to, he simply paid the CC for the account unlock on everything.
The artifice exploit? He doesn't even have a toon with artifice over about 50 (he hates artifice).

His reward for literally spending hundreds of dollars obtaining and binding rare items...

A one week ban with no explanation.

Thanks Bioware!

Awesome service!

My sentinel had had a bound white hawkeye crystal at the time he received dupes... =_= I didn't benefit from what I did because I'd be able to unlock it anyway. What's worst - there is a person i know of who did benefit and sent dozenns of dupes across his characters and he's still running free. Besides we still could not unlock the crystals for the entire account and it took us hours or weeks of grind in order to get the required legacy weapons and suddenly they're not working as intended after a year?

It's like buying leveling boosts or star ship upgrades. You are not required to do so but u can acquire them through hard work and spending credits. In this case you could've used something u obtained through hard work and which was intended to be used that way. Paying was an option for either lazy ppl or account-wide unlock. Like in the case of the various boosts or starship pieces.

Wonder what's going at Austin. Maybe they should fire the monkey who is responsible for bans and hire a cat. Would even fit better now where we have the cathar.

Unfortunatelly we can't have a discussion where we're trying to come up with things banned players had in common. :/

Precisely. I've always felt that the gag on ban-talk in MMO forums is a bit McCarthian. But the fact that we CAN talk about moving crystals around with legacy weapons is indicative that this was NOT the offense. However, I would not be surprised to find out that some automated system to detect illicit item duping was mistakenly detecting the above and bans were being issued accidentally. It wouldn't be the first time in MMO history that an automated banhammer malfunctioned.

When are we goin to get clarifications? I barely slept.