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How I got pwned by BioWare OR a REAL reason to unsub

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How I got pwned by BioWare OR a REAL reason to unsub

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Kontraz
05.21.2013 , 02:55 PM | #81
Quote: Originally Posted by TheBBP View Post
Hey folks, if you want to complain, just do it. Trying to validate with your complaint with "I have been here since day 1" like that is supposed to add some seriousness to your complaint is stupid and not needed. Nobody cares if you were in the first beta or started last week.
This is not true. As someone that has worked customer service for a major corporation for six years, I can certainly tell you that it can help if they know you are a long loyal supporter. Taunting it and making entitled demands because of this will harm you, but saying something like "I've been shopping here for four years and this is the first problem I've had, isn't there anything that can be done?" can often make managers/supervisors decide to grant exceptions where normally they would not.

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Kontraz
05.21.2013 , 03:09 PM | #82
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
Do you know why the difference?

Because items sent to you by Bioware are not actually sent until you log in. Check it if you don't believe me. I have logged in a few characters after being dormant for many months and the special items form Bioware show up in my mail as just having arrived when I logged the character in.
I think the point the was making was that the mail bioware sends never actually expires.

For example:
http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/...5.jpg~original

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Andryah
05.21.2013 , 03:14 PM | #83
Quote: Originally Posted by Kontraz View Post
This is not true. As someone that has worked customer service for a major corporation for six years, I can certainly tell you that it can help if they know you are a long loyal supporter. Taunting it and making entitled demands because of this will harm you, but saying something like "I've been shopping here for four years and this is the first problem I've had, isn't there anything that can be done?" can often make managers/supervisors decide to grant exceptions where normally they would not.
Well, first this requires an assumption that what was posted by the OP is actually true. Personally, I am skeptical. But my skepticism is not even relevant, nor is posting this info by the OP in a forum thread even relevant to his claims with Customer Support. This thread is public complaining prior to exhausting efforts to work with customer support IMO.

In this particular case, it appears to be a question of how/if Customer Support are able to verify the customer claim from ingame log data. To do so, they need accurate information to use to pinpoint the log data. Until that is resolved, no amount of customer justification is going to matter much IMO.

In addition, the OP has a history of throwing hissies all the way back to January 2012... so it tempers my views on what he says/claims. http://www.swtor.com/community/showt...28#post1860328 YRMV.
When you find yourself surrounded by hostile Clowns... always go for the "Juggler" first.

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Kontraz
05.21.2013 , 03:18 PM | #84
Quote: Originally Posted by HoloTweed View Post
Discrimination? You're REALLLLLLY reaching to pull that out of your helmet.

Not likely.
In terms of base legality, "discrimination" can be referred to as simply treating two individuals in identical situations differently.

Class discrimination (what you are probably referring to) is when it is against a group of people - ie racism, et al

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Kontraz
05.21.2013 , 03:20 PM | #85
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
Well, first this requires an assumption that what was posted by the OP is actually true. Personally, I am skeptical. But my skepticism is not even relevant, nor is posting this info by the OP in a forum thread even relevant to his claims with Customer Support. This thread is public complaining prior to exhausting efforts to work with customer support IMO.

In this particular case, it appears to be a question of how/if Customer Support are able to verify the customer claim from ingame log data. To do so, they need accurate information to use to pinpoint the log data. Until that is resolved, no amount of customer justification is going to matter much IMO.

In addition, the OP has a history of throwing hissies all the way back to January 2012... so it tempers my views on what he says/claims. http://www.swtor.com/community/showt...28#post1860328 YRMV.
I wasn't arguing whether or not it was true (though I tend to grant benefit of doubt, but that's just me). I was responding to the other poster saying that making a claim of loyalty doesn't help, when it actually can.

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Andryah
05.21.2013 , 03:26 PM | #86
Quote: Originally Posted by Kontraz View Post
I wasn't arguing whether or not it was true (though I tend to grant benefit of doubt, but that's just me). I was responding to the other poster saying that making a claim of loyalty doesn't help, when it actually can.
I believe his point was making such claims in public general forum (which is to attract and discuss with other forum members) is not relevant.. and it smacks of entitlement in the context of a public discussion. The OP was not speaking to Customer Support, he was complaining to other forum members IMO.

I agree with you that a customer support team would/should take into account customer loyalty.
When you find yourself surrounded by hostile Clowns... always go for the "Juggler" first.

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Kontraz
05.21.2013 , 03:36 PM | #87
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
I believe his point was making such claims in public general forum (which is to attract and discuss with other forum members) is not relevant.. and it smacks of entitlement in the context of a public discussion. The OP was not speaking to Customer Support, he was complaining to other forum members IMO.

I agree with you that a customer support team would/should take into account customer loyalty.
ah, if that's the case, then no, it won't help you. Winning "us" over does virtually nothing. O_o

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JimG
05.21.2013 , 04:10 PM | #88
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
Well, first this requires an assumption that what was posted by the OP is actually true. Personally, I am skeptical. But my skepticism is not even relevant, nor is posting this info by the OP in a forum thread even relevant to his claims with Customer Support. This thread is public complaining prior to exhausting efforts to work with customer support IMO.
Yeah, in my experience, I've had several items restored through CS. Perhaps he called the CS phone number and spoke with someone unhelpful. I just direct email them and I've always gotten prompt resolutions to my inquiries. If they can restore items that have been RE'ed or destroyed, then certainly the OP's stuff could be restored and there are logs of the items.

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Darth_Moonshadow
05.21.2013 , 04:19 PM | #89
Quote: Originally Posted by SleepyJoeFriday View Post
The odd thing here though is that items posted to you by Bioware remain in your mail folder seemingly forever and yet any item mailed by a player gets removed after 30 days.
It's to reduce the fullness of your mailbox if you leave for a short time.

Do you really want to come back after three months to see your mailbox full of credit spam mails?
Quote: Originally Posted by BruceMaclean View Post

And I love Darth Moonshadow's responses.
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Kontraz
05.21.2013 , 04:21 PM | #90
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth_Moonshadow View Post
It's to reduce the fullness of your mailbox if you leave for a short time.

Do you really want to come back after three months to see your mailbox full of credit spam mails?
I would rather that than important mail get deleted, yes. lol