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Stat Balance - Parses

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thasensei
05.18.2013 , 10:29 AM | #1
I uploaded some parses to TORParse using 4 different setups. Since I don't have enough gear to do precise 1-for-1 replacements, some of the setups have fluctuations in total stat budgets - particularly the last two builds where I'm trying to swap out accuracy for surge. However, I think the setups are close enough to provide a fair representation. I listed the parsed crit% along with the number of Hammer Shots used to give an indication of if it was a particularly lucky or unlucky parse.

These parses were all done on my ship dummy with raid buffs and a reusable stim. I wasn't going for max DPS here, but rather just trying to maintain a consistent rotation throughout all 4 setups to reduce the chances of human error. As such, I didn't use my clicky relic or my adrenal. I also limited my Reserve Powercell and Recharge Powercells to one use each throughout the 3 minute parse.

Keep in mind this is an incredibly small sample size. I only did three 3-minute parses with each setup. Hopefully other people can do similar testing and we can start to see some trends.


First Setup (Acc/Pow):
Aim 3114
Acc 418 (109.8)
Power 962
Crit 170
Surge 288

Parse 1: 2210 24.38% crit 12 HS
Parse 2: 2202 25% crit 16 HS
Parse 3: 2176 26.64% crit 14 HS

Parse1: http://www.torparse.com/a/235703
Parse2: http://www.torparse.com/a/235705
Parse2: http://www.torparse.com/a/235707



Second Setup (Acc/Crit):
Aim 3114
Acc 418 (109.8)
Power 757
Crit 375
Surge 288

Parse 1: 2175 30.2% crit 13 HS
Parse 2: 2212 25.69% crit 13 HS
Parse 3: 2230 28.52% crit 14 HS

Parse1: http://www.torparse.com/a/235714
Parse2: http://www.torparse.com/a/235719
Parse3: http://www.torparse.com/a/235724



Third Setup (Crit/Surge):
Aim 3114
Acc 286 (108.10)
Power 671
Crit 469
Surge 432

Parse 1: 2184 26.54% crit 14 HS
Parse 2: 2274 25% crit 11 HS
Parse 3: 2160 26.17% crit 14 HS

Parse1: http://www.torparse.com/a/235727
Parse2: http://www.torparse.com/a/235728
Parse3: http://www.torparse.com/a/235731



Fourth Setup (Pow/Surge):
Aim 3114
Acc 286 (108.10)
Power 993
Crit 123
Surge 408

Parse 1: 2237 21.63% crit 12 HS
Parse 2: 2324 27.16% crit 12 HS
Parse 3: 2251 26.02% crit 16 HS

Parse1: http://www.torparse.com/a/235734
Parse2: http://www.torparse.com/a/235735
Parse3: http://www.torparse.com/a/235740

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ElQuesoGrande
05.20.2013 , 02:18 AM | #2
I hope this is in like 63 gear, because it's incredibly low for a commando right now

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Gyronamics
05.20.2013 , 03:01 AM | #3
Tbh two things will always mean these results wont mean much.

Small sample size (realistically no one can do enough samples to make sure of any improvements/weakness)
RNG being far more influential on results than your stat changes

The way I did my stat checking was to do one long "good" parse.

List all damage in a spreadsheet
Adjust damage done according to power/crit chance and individual attack bonuses
Examine output changes as you increase/lower damage and crit.

What you will see very quickly is changing a handful of mods e.g. swapping 5 slots of power to crit will result in a miniscule difference. We're talking in the region of 0.05% damage.
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thasensei
05.20.2013 , 05:38 AM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by ElQuesoGrande View Post
I hope this is in like 63 gear, because it's incredibly low for a commando right now
Instead of being a condescending troll, why not try to contribute to the thread in some meaningful way? Thanks. ;-P

Quote: Originally Posted by Gyronamics View Post
Tbh two things will always mean these results wont mean much.

Small sample size (realistically no one can do enough samples to make sure of any improvements/weakness)
RNG being far more influential on results than your stat changes

The way I did my stat checking was to do one long "good" parse.

List all damage in a spreadsheet
Adjust damage done according to power/crit chance and individual attack bonuses
Examine output changes as you increase/lower damage and crit.

What you will see very quickly is changing a handful of mods e.g. swapping 5 slots of power to crit will result in a miniscule difference. We're talking in the region of 0.05% damage.
Hi Gryo. The whole point of starting this thread was in the hopes that others would post parses between varying gear setups. There's plenty of theory crafting out there but I haven't seen much in the way of actual testing, so I figured I'd try to contribute by starting it off with a few parses.

With regards to your methodology, are you talking about listing out each individual attack? I'm not sure what you mean when you say "adjust damage done...". If you could explain that methodology a bit more I'd be interested in looking into it.

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Gyronamics
05.20.2013 , 09:30 AM | #5
You work it out for combined damage of each attack used.

For example:

Attack A has been used 45 times it has a tooltip damage of 1000, a crit rate of 25% and has a talent boost so it does 200% damage on crit

Attack B has been used 20 times, it has a tooltip damage of 450, a crit rate of 25% and does 170% damage on a crit

We know how many times each attack was used in our parse.
We know what the tooltip damage is because we can see it in game
We know what the crit rate is because we can see it in game
Same for surge, any talents and so on.

Knowing all that you can work out the damage being produced and the effects on it as you change mods.

For example, swapping 5 power for 5 crit mods will lower tooltip damage (update that number) and increase crit (update that too) but you'll still do the same number of attacks and you can see how that worked out.

Working out effects of armour vs your damage is something I do rather crudely and that's something you'll have to find your own way of simulating.

You don't really have to work it out vs armour, you can see increases and decreases before any armour reduction anyway using just straight tooltip damage. Just bear in mind that armour will lower damage from energy and kinetic attacks by a significant amount when you look at the output.
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