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ML_DoubleTap
05.17.2013 , 09:06 AM | #81
I just can't make the connection between this,
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthBror View Post
I did roll for several hours with Bay and a few of his buddies. After many WZs of epic facestomps...
and this,
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I expressed to him that I was interested in becoming involved in a more competitive guild ...
How does a few hours of facestomps lend itself to competition? I've always enjoyed most of you're posts here..don't think I've ever played on your team but you seem like a decent person. So, don't take this as me bringing out the 'hatorade' or whatever, I just don't understand the logic.


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If however, you just want to continue to hate and be angry.. then go **** yourself. and have a nice day
As I've said, some Guerilla members already showed their colors telling me to f*ck off after a "GG", so this is nothing new Ya'll can talk about community and competition, but actions speak louder than words. Even if it's a few bad apples it makes the whole guild look bad...not to mention when I posted the screenie(which I probably shouldn't have done, and deleted it shortly after) of the response it was defended by a couple members, and Bay mocked me w/ a YouTube video. Yeah, community.
Bonkurz

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DarthBror
05.17.2013 , 09:45 AM | #82
Quote: Originally Posted by ML_DoubleTap View Post
I just can't make the connection between this,

and this,


How does a few hours of facestomps lend itself to competition? I've always enjoyed most of you're posts here..don't think I've ever played on your team but you seem like a decent person. So, don't take this as me bringing out the 'hatorade' or whatever, I just don't understand the logic.




As I've said, some Guerilla members already showed their colors telling me to f*ck off after a "GG", so this is nothing new Ya'll can talk about community and competition, but actions speak louder than words. Even if it's a few bad apples it makes the whole guild look bad...not to mention when I posted the screenie(which I probably shouldn't have done, and deleted it shortly after) of the response it was defended by a couple members, and Bay mocked me w/ a YouTube video. Yeah, community.
For me it was about a cohesive PVP experience. Rolling with them made me feel as tho I had a roll to play other than being a mobile training dummy. I still kite and such as part of my Sorc Healz roll, but not as my primary objective.

Naturally synergy leads to facetomps, and how is that competitive you ask? Well,,, Being competitive starts with team dynamic. Bull ******** on Speak channels and knowing what others are and are supposed to be doing. Regardless of the competition, I want to be the best Sorc I can be. At this time, its playing as objectively as possible and developing a good team dynamic. In this case with PVP centric people. Win or lose that is my goal.

Furthermore,
I don't understand why other Republic guilds don't consolidate into meta PVP guilds too then? I spent a long while trying to fight this process and making every excuse about how being the underdog was cool.. etc etc. For some it may be. Hey its your 15$. For me, it became clear that Competition is not just about facestomps. Its about doing the best you can, and taking your game to the highest possible level. That simply wasn't going to be possible in an RP-PVE guild.
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mori-
05.17.2013 , 09:55 AM | #83
Quote: Originally Posted by ML_DoubleTap View Post
As I've said, some Guerilla members already showed their colors telling me to f*ck off after a "GG", so this is nothing new Ya'll can talk about community and competition, but actions speak louder than words. Even if it's a few bad apples it makes the whole guild look bad...not to mention when I posted the screenie(which I probably shouldn't have done, and deleted it shortly after) of the response it was defended by a couple members, and Bay mocked me w/ a YouTube video. Yeah, community.
Try not being so melodramatic, it was one person, myself.

And in case you haven't gathered from the responses in the previous thread:
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It isn't a GG when you absolutely destroyed the other team and tell them GG, some people have yet to catch up on that point. What is a GG for one side is total rape for the other.
But sure, use this as a leg to stand on when you try and argue the entirety of Guerrilla are terrrible people.
I'd happily tell you to **** off again under the same circumstances.

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ML_DoubleTap
05.17.2013 , 10:00 AM | #84
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthBror View Post
Furthermore,
I don't understand why other Republic guilds don't consolidate into meta PVP guilds too then? I spent a long while trying to fight this process and making every excuse about how being the underdog was cool.. etc etc. For some it may be. Hey its your 15$. For me, it became clear that Competition is not just about facestomps. Its about doing the best you can, and taking your game to the highest possible level. That simply wasn't going to be possible in an RP-PVE guild.
For me, its because I enjoy my guildmates and I'd rather be with people I enjoy than win at all costs. Maybe once you're part of the clique they treat you differently, but a majority of the Gamepirella crew act like jerks and trolls in game and on the forum. Doesn't take long to find examples, and I'd prefer not to surround myself w/ that type just to win. From some of the comments I've seen in game they don't even treat each other very well...

Maybe I've just had bad experiences and they really are a rosy happy bunch that gets a bad reputation...for some reason I doubt this. I wil admit I thought it was funny when one of them created a toon named DoubleTap ... in fact I was honored they thought enough of me to troll
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ML_DoubleTap
05.17.2013 , 10:07 AM | #85
Quote: Originally Posted by mori- View Post
Try not being so melodramatic, it was one person, myself.

And in case you haven't gathered from the responses in the previous thread:


But sure, use this as a leg to stand on when you try and argue the entirety of Guerrilla are terrrible people.
I'd happily tell you to **** off again under the same circumstances.
You mopped us up the game prior and immediately following and I said 'GG' in both of those instances as well. So, like I said, it was unwarranted. Be a grown up and take a loss...I know it doesn't happen often, but a least try You're free to queue up with me if you need practice!
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DarthBror
05.17.2013 , 10:07 AM | #86
Quote: Originally Posted by ML_DoubleTap View Post
For me, its because I enjoy my guildmates and I'd rather be with people I enjoy than win at all costs. Maybe once you're part of the clique they treat you differently, but a majority of the Gamepirella crew act like jerks and trolls in game and on the forum. Doesn't take long to find examples, and I'd prefer not to surround myself w/ that type just to win. From some of the comments I've seen in game they don't even treat each other very well...

Maybe I've just had bad experiences and they really are a rosy happy bunch that gets a bad reputation...for some reason I doubt this. I wil admit I thought it was funny when one of them created a toon named DoubleTap ... in fact I was honored they thought enough of me to troll
for sure.. I would guess its prob a little of both. I see that in any guild tho. Pax is HUGE.. mult games, titles and genres. For every 100 cool people there is always 1 D-bag that talks some ****, trolls, or other douche move. Hell Ive even been that person on occasion.

I use Pax not to slander them in anyway, just because its an example of a guild with a pretty upstanding reputation.

Just as much as I like to win, I like to be competitive.. Guerilla is about being as competitive as possible. For me I sacrificed guildies I loved for fulfillment in PVP.. That **** weighs heavily on my conscience, and I alone have to live with that. It may not be for you or anyone else, but for me... I want to surround myself with other like minded people. get as cohesive as possible and fine tune tactics.
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DarthBror
05.17.2013 , 10:11 AM | #87
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It isn't a GG when you absolutely destroyed the other team and tell them GG, some people have yet to catch up on that point. What is a GG for one side is total rape for the other.


IDK man.. I completely disagree. I was taught that win or lose you go shake hands and say GG. Period. If you don't,, your a sore *** loser, or an ******e.

If I don't type GG at the end of a match its because im too baked to remember to do so. lol.
MORT: Ganster of Love
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Satedbuffalo
05.17.2013 , 10:14 AM | #88
Yes, the incestuous knot of guilds at the top hurt PvP on this server. There are many talented players not in those guilds, but being a member of that triumvirate is such a draw that maintaining a large enough base of talent to run a ranked team is unbelievably difficult. I'm seriously impressed by the few guilds that can. (And it's not just talent that's needed - people need to have Dashto's level of masochism and perseverance, which are rare commodities when most people are playing the game to unwind and relax.)

I think by-and-large the things that happened weren't malicious, but they were definitely short-sighted. I don't think anyone can disagree that PvP on TEH is in a sorry state, and I think you'd be hard pressed to show that the incestuous three had nothing to do with that, especially considering that the huge majority of the most talented players are in those guilds.

I commend those committed to the viability of PvP on this server. I think Spurlock's point, that we shouldn't celebrate members of the incestuous three leaving because there will always be a top dog, isn't quite right. Yes, absolutely, there will always be a top dog. But I think if those new top dogs are committed to the longevity of server PvP -- people like Nadir, Dashto, Alecia, Panopticus, etc. -- the departure of the incestuous three might go a long way towards reviving ranked on the server. But, no, I'm not cheering to see players I respect leaving (Spurlock's another matter entirely); I'm hopeful that those who stay can learn from the past and make TEH PvP all that it should be.

Also, seriously, like 90% of this thread should be in the hate thread, omg. I don't want to have to check all the pvp-related threads just to luxuriate in the trolly drama. C'mon, guys, get it together.
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ML_DoubleTap
05.17.2013 , 10:14 AM | #89
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthBror View Post
for sure.. I would guess its prob a little of both. I see that in any guild tho. Pax is HUGE.. mult games, titles and genres. For every 100 cool people there is always 1 D-bag that talks some ****, trolls, or other douche move. Hell Ive even been that person on occasion.
Yeah, that's certainly understandable. Unfortunately, fair or not, Guerilla and the like tend to live under a microscope given their elite status on the server.

Like I said, I've enjoyed your comments on the forums in the past and was in no way trying to be negative towards you. Just explaining from my point of view. I've always tried to be friendly in games and it generally blows up in my face w/ most of that crew.
Bonkurz

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ML_DoubleTap
05.17.2013 , 10:18 AM | #90
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthBror View Post

IDK man.. I completely disagree. I was taught that win or lose you go shake hands and say GG. Period. If you don't,, your a sore *** loser, or an ******e.
^ This... Maybe coming from someone else it will get across. I wasn't trying to be a d*ck...I always say good game, and I lose more than I win . Heck even in out of shape, old man, beer league softball...one of my competitive outlets...we shake hands with teams we don't necessarily get along with and tell them 'good game' regardless of the outcome.
Bonkurz