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PvP Community's Plans for Server Transfers

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PvP Community's Plans for Server Transfers
 

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Vintal
05.17.2013 , 01:25 AM | #41
Just posting in this epic thread. Game Genie isn't going anywhere. Vintal is here to stay. Abigor and Guerrilla on the other hand...

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TrueSpurlocK
05.17.2013 , 01:32 AM | #42
Quote: Originally Posted by alexsamma View Post
Sithius, if you can't understand that using an exploit to win in warzones is wrong then I do not see how we can help you understand anything, but I'll try.

Using an in game command designed to help you escape glitches that result in your character being stuck (thus the name, /stuck) in order to gain an advantage over the other team is and exploit -- you are using a game mechanic in manner that it was not designed to be used in and in doing so you gain a direct advantage over your opponent

So, let's break it down by map:

Huttball : /stuck to get back to your endzone, to prevent a cap (usually by firepulling someone).
Voidstar(Defense): /stuck to get the "luckyu" respawn door, thus immediately emerging from the respawn with full health/energy.
Voidstar(Offense): /stuck, when used after certain points, will actually enable you to re-spawn ahead of where you died.
Novare/Civil War:" using /stuck allows you to quickly respond to attacks on the two side nodes.

It's obvious that using /stuck gives your team a tactical advantage over the opposing team in every warzone; if one side is doing this and the other side is not doing this then the team that is exploiting /stuck has an advantage.

Finally, when you are so open about using an exploit it is very challenging for people to not believe the accusations that you are cheating.

The Huttball macro:

Two former members of empire let this one out, and since I do not have the right to share their names I won't (one of the reasons I edited my original post).

Absorbing guilds:

This is a RP-PVE server, and while there is a solid core of competent players who become hooked on the pvp meta-game, the large majority of players on this server view pvp as a side-game and prefer to concentrate on other aspects of the game; by merging/allying with guild after guild you effectively created a oligarchy of pvpers - it has been a struggle to build a pvp-oriented guild (at our max we had possibly 10-11 individual members in Zen, some of which we shared with other guilds), not because there is a lack of talented pvpers on this server, but because the individuals who are interested in devoting the majority of their game time to pvp are/were part of your oligarchy. Things were so bad that we literally had to roll imperial alts in order to work with Hex to form a ranked team that could queue up on a regular basis.

In response to your response to my post, when we first started queuing with Hex both Guerilla and GG had enough members to field their own teams, but instead mixed their groups to field an optimal composition each night - throughout the entire time that we queued there was not a single night that Hex, GG, and Guerilla all queued.

Stomping newly formed ranked teams:

Ranked is about competition, and if you jump into queue you need to be prepared to lose, but that does not translate into destroying new teams so completely that they feel that that their is no way that they will ever be able to compete against you.

Attitudes:

I find it funny that you are so kosher with Dark Empire(nothing against DE, I enjoy the matches against and with you) taking their time to build a ranked team, but you would log over to republic fleet and **** talk Zen when we were trying to build our ranked team.

You probably don't know this, but the few times we had enough people on we did queue for ranked,, even though that generally meant queuing with 2 commandos, which no one else did. The week that Sevrin's Vanguard hit 50 we made plans to queue for ranked on the next Monday and Wednesday, **** happened, we lost people, obviously we didn't queue. Later, when we joined with Hex we queued every Mon/Wed, regardless of our group comp, until PTS Opened.

And as far as whining/************/complaining goes, our "issues" started back when you would rage after getting your *** handed to you, and then one night you started talking smack about Octavia and told me to "wake that ***** up;" so all of the "whining" and "complaining" actually started on your end - and if calling someone on using an exploit is whining I'll gladly take the title.
First of all, I must say, you are being trolled by whoever it is from Empire that you are talking about. Huttball macro? lol That is just the funniest thing I have ever heard. You know Octavia is a nice person too, but she always seemed a little more concerned about sticking up for the "underdog" and I can't really blame her for that.

But in all honesty, I see no whining coming from me. I see it only coming from the same side that it's always coming from. The same guilds who can't seem to get a ranked warzone win under their belt. The same guilds who think Guerrilla is poaching from other guilds. If you all are blinded by the past, or stuck on things that take no part in what goes on anymore, then you are just completely lost. Please list a name of players that Guerrilla has "poached" Arash. Keep in mind, poaching means talking to players, and convincing them to leave their guild. Players that wanted to leave on their own, don't count as poaching. So please give me a list.

As for Alecia, you are still falling for the same troll that you have fallen for since day one, except this time I'm not telling you that you are garbage. If I'm whining, and you are tired of hearing it, why don't you do something about it? Why don't you put together a ranked team, and WIN?

It's funny, now that I think about it, if you (Alecia), were getting win, after win, after win, the /stuck command wouldn't bother you, and you would call players a joke. But I can understand how frustrating the losing can be, so calling players out because you are losing justifies it. Why aren't players banned for using /stuck? has that ever occured to anyone? I'm not too concerned about it. I see Republic players use /stuck all the time; do I care? NO. I just make it an effort to beat them. I don't mind getting beat in a regular warzone. Sometimes it's hard to carry more than your weight in a warzone. But in a ranked warzone, that's a whole new ballpark. You just won't win. I won't allow it, my friends won't allow it. Cheating would get someone in the swtor community banned, and so far the /stuck command is "working as intended."


I'm kind of confused about what the problem is with being friends with Dark Empire? Arash, explain that to me.

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NadirPalo
05.17.2013 , 01:38 AM | #43
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AcidicAmber
05.17.2013 , 01:42 AM | #44
As far as Hex goes, had a lot of fun fighting them since the start of the server when most of them where in Veritas. Rexan always wanting to fight Jerc, good rivalries back then.

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kloma
05.17.2013 , 01:57 AM | #45
I'll transfer a toon over, if all of the current teams head over.

PVP wont be better here without GG/Empire/Guerilla, it just means that Zen will be top dog when they can field a full team, or republic or Dark Empire. And any guild will have it's bad apple, someone who wants to exploit or just troll people.

as for all the excuses about whos better, lets get it on, we've a few weeks left.

Lets do ranked, until you leave, then you can all leave and people don't need to dispute whos better.

SSDD

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Clogski
05.17.2013 , 02:02 AM | #46
Quote: Originally Posted by kloma View Post
I'll transfer a toon over, if all of the current teams head over.

PVP wont be better here without GG/Empire/Guerilla, it just means that Zen will be top dog when they can field a full team, or republic or Dark Empire. And any guild will have it's bad apple, someone who wants to exploit or just troll people.

as for all the excuses about whos better, lets get it on, we've a few weeks left.

Lets do ranked, until you leave, then you can all leave and people don't need to dispute whos better.

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AcidicAmber
05.17.2013 , 02:07 AM | #47
Don't think anyone claimed to be better.

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NadirPalo
05.17.2013 , 02:16 AM | #48
Quote: Originally Posted by AcidicAmber View Post
Don't think anyone claimed to be better.
This.

This whole thread is full of fail, people are selectively reading what they want to read and ignoring entire posts. If nobody wants to actually consider that their point of view could be inaccurate, and consider the other side for just 10 minutes, then we're going to get caught in this endless loop of **** show worthy of the Bastion forums.
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alexsamma
05.17.2013 , 02:20 AM | #49
My win count is greater than zero Spurlock, I actually seem to recall beating Guerilla back when I was in AB.

Sure, I'll get a team together (or try) and then you can run back to GG and ask them to carry you, like you have been doing for the past few months.

And I would call people out on exploiting/hacking/cheating/etc regardless of where I stood in the ranked pvp food chain.

As for the huttball macro, there's not much involved in setting up a macro to repeatedly click while you have a button pushed down.

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TrueSpurlocK
05.17.2013 , 02:47 AM | #50
Quote: Originally Posted by alexsamma View Post
My win count is greater than zero Spurlock, I actually seem to recall beating Guerilla back when I was in AB.

Sure, I'll get a team together (or try) and then you can run back to GG and ask them to carry you, like you have been doing for the past few months.

And I would call people out on exploiting/hacking/cheating/etc regardless of where I stood in the ranked pvp food chain.

As for the huttball macro, there's not much involved in setting up a macro to repeatedly click while you have a button pushed down.
Guerrilla losing to AB? What are you talking about? and Game Genie carrying Guerrilla? See now you are just talking out of your ***. I understand you are frustrated, but beating Republic and Fully Buffed in a rated warzone don't count for anything when you haven't beaten a team that's actually been playing together for a while. If AB ever beat Guerrilla, I wasn't in the guild, so I guess in my eyes, it doesn't count. But for whatever reason, you aren't in AB anymore, so I'm going to assume that you just want to try and recall your one "win" against another guild.

You aren't going to start anything between Game Genie and Guerrilla, it's just kind of stupid to say that they are carrying us. I'm pretty sure if they were carrying us, they wouldn't be associating with us. It goes back to what I was saying earlier, it's really hard to carry someone, so why bother. You seem very desperate for a final grasp at trying to be on top. I like you Alecia, you have a good "I want to win" attitude; but everything else, the rage, the hate, the anger, yeah, it's showing. I wish you luck if you ever beat a team in a rated warzone with a good group. Stop picking on other guilds, and pick on someone whose win factor might not be in your favor.