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Luke (post-GrandMaster) vs Revan (post-KotOR)

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Luke (post-GrandMaster) vs Revan (post-KotOR)

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Aurbere
05.03.2013 , 01:01 PM | #171
Quote: Originally Posted by ZahirS View Post
True fury, I think those creatures that live in a darkside enviroment would likely become twisted because of it or feed on the darkside either way seems like natural life is greater in scale to darkside.

Now on Palpatine, a walking darkside nexus, how does he get all that energy that can could planets entirely, I mean a fragile Old man can't sustain it he needs clones...yet he does...I got a simpler definition of palpatine:

He is the star wars devil, the darkside nexus noone can ever explain because just is...which is stupid.
He needs clones to remain in the physical world. His spirit holds his power, not his clones. His younger clones just allow him to use the power his frail old body could not. Plus they serve as his method for immortality.
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ZahirS
05.03.2013 , 01:09 PM | #172
Quote: Originally Posted by Aurbere View Post
He needs clones to remain in the physical world. His spirit holds his power, not his clones. His younger clones just allow him to use the power his frail old body could not. Plus they serve as his method for immortality.
yet that doesn't add up like I said earlier

If he needs clones to sustain "his power", he doesn't have it because not even his clone can sustain him for long.

If his "spirit" can have all this power might aswell convert to a force ghost and have "ULIMIIIITED POWAR"

you see Palpatine is NOT the most powerful darkside user in existance, he is master mind and is responsible of the jedi purge but HE IS NOT the most powerful entity in Star Wars, just doesn't add up.

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FuryoftheStars
05.03.2013 , 01:11 PM | #173
Quote: Originally Posted by ZahirS View Post
yet that doesn't add up like I said earlier

If he needs clones to sustain "his power", he doesn't have it because not even his clone can sustain him for long.

If his "spirit" can have all this power might aswell convert to a force ghost and have "ULIMIIIITED POWAR"

you see Palpatine is NOT the most powerful darkside user in existance, he is master mind and is responsible of the jedi purge but HE IS NOT the most powerful entity in Star Wars, just doesn't add up.
According to GL, Palpatine and Luke were the most powerful. Like I said, I believe the EU blew this out of proportion.
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Wolfninjajedi
05.03.2013 , 01:51 PM | #174
Quote: Originally Posted by FuryoftheStars View Post
According to GL, Palpatine and Luke were the most powerful. Like I said, I believe the EU blew this out of proportion.
How so? GL never said anything specifics on how big they could increase their power. Though honestly, Sidious/Luke never really seemed to do anything huge. Yes Force Storms is a big thing, but really...that was pretty much it for Sidious in terms of doing something on a big scale the other things he done are rather small in comparison or things he has doneso before his cloned bodies.

With Luke...he has done some big stuff sure, but those things are really just big applications of just Force Powers. IE: Making himself immoveable, walking on lava and so on. It isn't like other Jedi if they devoted their time to study and everything, wouldn't be able to do similar things...I mean hell the Dark Woman(who was once a Jedi Master) could teleport/phase through objects, if you want an example.
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Aurbere
05.03.2013 , 01:57 PM | #175
Quote: Originally Posted by ZahirS View Post
yet that doesn't add up like I said earlier

If he needs clones to sustain "his power", he doesn't have it because not even his clone can sustain him for long.

If his "spirit" can have all this power might aswell convert to a force ghost and have "ULIMIIIITED POWAR"

you see Palpatine is NOT the most powerful darkside user in existance, he is master mind and is responsible of the jedi purge but HE IS NOT the most powerful entity in Star Wars, just doesn't add up.
He doesn't insta-die after using a Force Storm (I believe it did once, but that was because he couldn't control it). His body just decays rapidly. Not only that, but his feats prior to Dark Empire show him as most powerful Sith (like defeating Yoda, who is the most powerful Jedi pre-Luke). Plus, George Lucas has said that Sidious is the most powerful Sith. Until that statement is retracted or changed, he is the most powerful Sith Lord.

Palpatine has shown incredible power before Dark Empire. He just becomes more powerful when placed in a clone body. His clone bodies just decay when his spirit inhabits them. This alone speaks of his strength in the Dark Side.

Palpatine had the "uber" power in his old frail body, it just wouldn't be able to handle such tremendous displays for a great deal of time. I believe that is one of the reasons his clones don't last long. I have a theory regarding that, but we'll save that for later.

I think you're just going to have to face facts. Palpatine is the most powerful Sith Lord ever. Multiple sources state this ranging from C-canon to G-canon. It may not make sense to you, but the fact of the matter is, Palpatine is the most powerful Sith. Not because of Dark Empire, but because of his actions prior to that. IIRC, George said that he was the most powerful Sith Lord prior to Dark Empire being released.

But really, if you need proof, check out a few sourcebooks featuring Palpatine. They will tell you everything you need to know.
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Idunhavaname
05.04.2013 , 10:54 AM | #176
Wasn't luke deemed the most powerful Jedi in history by GOD (George Lucas)?
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Wolfninjajedi
05.04.2013 , 11:55 AM | #177
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Wasn't luke deemed the most powerful Jedi in history by GOD (George Lucas)?
Ya pretty much.
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MajinEddie
05.05.2013 , 04:11 AM | #178
Fanboys love some luke man.