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PvP'ers need money too.

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Jayshames
05.04.2013 , 07:21 AM | #31
It would be a lot more simple just to increase rewards as you progress in Valor. Possibly also make Valor legacy-wide.
I suggested a while back that we should get an extra 1 commendation/2 Valor ranks making it an extra +50 comms/wz for those with 100 Valor for example. Maybe something like an extra 200 credits/Valor rank for a maximum of +20k at 100 Valor also.

Something definitely needs done because the credit gain from WZ atm is so poor. I went onto my Sorcerer earlier (level 52) and tried to go to Makeb, realised I sent all my credits to my other toon. I had to play a 10~ min Warzone for 4k so I could afford to pay the 2.4k travel fee to Makeb. It's so horrid.

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harokiti
05.04.2013 , 07:43 AM | #32
I do pvp and pve I dont do flash points coz I dont have the time, If i need credits I do makeb dailys they take less then a hour and you can gather mats for crew skills while you are there and get like 200k in half an hour. At least in pvp when you die you dont have repair bills like when you raid. Sometimes I can pay 50-100k in a night on repair bills wiping on new content. So yeah I understand the pve content rewards us with lots of credits but it costs alot to raid. While hanging on the fleet waiting for pops why not be doing dailys in makeb or black hole just sounds like your lazy to be honest.
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Jayshames
05.04.2013 , 07:48 AM | #33
Quote: Originally Posted by harokiti View Post
I do pvp and pve I dont do flash points coz I dont have the time, If i need credits I do makeb dailys they take less then a hour and you can gather mats for crew skills while you are there and get like 200k in half an hour. At least in pvp when you die you dont have repair bills like when you raid. Sometimes I can pay 50-100k in a night on repair bills wiping on new content. So yeah I understand the pve content rewards us with lots of credits but it costs alot to raid. While hanging on the fleet waiting for pops why not be doing dailys in makeb or black hole just sounds like your lazy to be honest.
Not really. Daillies are tedious and often require respeccing skill tree for a PvE build. There are plenty of people who don't want to spend the credits on the legacy field respec or simply don't have the credits to do so. If you go respec and then go to Makeb for daillies and your warzone pops you aren't going to be very effective in PvP with a build set for PvE. Being lazy isn't always the cause for people not doing things.

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Seireeni
05.04.2013 , 07:50 AM | #34
Quote: Originally Posted by harokiti View Post
While hanging on the fleet waiting for pops why not be doing dailys in makeb or black hole just sounds like your lazy to be honest.
At least my wz queue usually pops in maximum 5 minutes. There are so many dailies I can complete in 5 minutes.

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Rendolphe
05.04.2013 , 08:14 AM | #35
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Three guaranteed effects of your delusional requests

1: It will reward existing hackers and exploiters
2: it will encourage others to hack and exploit because now they can get better paid for it
3: It will completely dictate how and why players act within a given warzone as these new objectives will supercede all others and lets face it, trying to get most players to concentrate on the normal warzone objectives is hard enough as it is.

All in all it sounds like a suggested pvp welfare to me and no doubt it would be balanced by pvp repair bills which would screw everybody.

stupid, ill-thought, overly-subjective and laziness-inspired idea.
Seriously, the hackers are very few in WZ. On POT5 since Ginger I didn't see one.

Just a small reminder that the biggest hack to make credit in SWTOR back in the day was the bot on spatial mission and not PvP. Thanks BW they fix it and ban theses hackers.

If you are a real PvPer and only do WZ you will understand this problem. All the MK-9, augment and Mod swipping is really expensive for a PvPer. If a PvPer use at least 3 seismic grenade per game his profit start to be very very small.

So for PvP sake get out of this PvP forum and go farm your dailies on Makeb. Repair for doing PvP ?!?! Tssss get out now before I force choke you with my legacy abilities.
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Cursedii
05.04.2013 , 08:33 AM | #36
More daily and weekly quest/rewards are definitely needed, if done properly. Everything in mmo's runs the risk of being "exploited", so if done right I don't see a down side.

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platinumruggo
05.04.2013 , 08:42 AM | #37
Honestly, I don't quite understand WHY some of you are so AGAINST pve grinding... Like it's there for a reason. Most of you are choosing to ignore the other half of the actual game to make money because you apparently don't like it. No one's forcing you to do it, which is why you don't need to do it but gosh darn bros, just grind. You can literally do the daily/weekly on black hole and get 100k on EACH character you have. I know some of you have like 8 alts... that's 800k right there, not to mention the money you get some sending your comps out to sell trash lol.

P.S. Don't get me wrong, some more actual dailies/weeklies for PvP would be amazing, since I do love to PvP, especially on my op. I am in support of more dailies and weeklies to get some more cash but damn.
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harokiti
05.04.2013 , 09:24 AM | #38
I don't understand why you are so skint that you can't afford respec in field you can even buy it with cartel coins! I take it that you just levelled in warzone and didn't actually see any of the story coz I had over 1.5 million credits when I dinged 50 on Voss I still had to complete corriellia and ilum. I did every quest on every planet including bonus because I enjoyed the story. I made approx 1m credits from level 50-55 story line on Makeb and really enjoyed the cinematics and story there too. Im on a PVP server and the players in my guild that only pvp still do dailys on makeb and black hole every day. I think you just want to have your cake and eat it.
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Twin
05.04.2013 , 09:36 AM | #39
Quote: Originally Posted by platinumruggo View Post
Honestly, I don't quite understand WHY some of you are so AGAINST pve grinding... Like it's there for a reason. Most of you are choosing to ignore the other half of the actual game to make money because you apparently don't like it. No one's forcing you to do it, which is why you don't need to do it but gosh darn bros, just grind. You can literally do the daily/weekly on black hole and get 100k on EACH character you have. I know some of you have like 8 alts... that's 800k right there, not to mention the money you get some sending your comps out to sell trash lol.

P.S. Don't get me wrong, some more actual dailies/weeklies for PvP would be amazing, since I do love to PvP, especially on my op. I am in support of more dailies and weeklies to get some more cash but damn.
And i dont understand why anyone would oppose allowing ppl to be selfsustained via PvP. I'll ask again; Why is it that PvE'rs should be able to get all the credits they need from PvE - but PvP'rs should not be able to do the same from PvP?

The question really is as simple as that; Why should PvPers be forced to PvE for credits if PvErs aren't forced to PvP for the same reason? (Not that i'd want to force them to do that either)

For many PvPers PvE isn't even a part of SWTOR, myself included. I completly and utterly despise running around on dailies hitting on static enemies....could just as well stand still and click on a door for 50min. Freakin NPC's hardly moves in this game! Remove the entire pve aspect from SWTOR, and ill still be here.

Just like many PvErs consider PvP in the exact same way as i look upon PvE.

Why should any of these 2 categories of ppl be forced to enter the content they despise?

And you say you get 100k on each toon from BlackHole dailies? Do you mean i should do those dailes on 8 toons? I would have ripped out my eyes and stomped them, before i logged in a second toon...lol.
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05.04.2013 , 09:45 AM | #40
Quote: Originally Posted by harokiti View Post
I don't understand why you are so skint that you can't afford respec in field you can even buy it with cartel coins! I take it that you just levelled in warzone and didn't actually see any of the story coz I had over 1.5 million credits when I dinged 50 on Voss I still had to complete corriellia and ilum. I did every quest on every planet including bonus because I enjoyed the story. I made approx 1m credits from level 50-55 story line on Makeb and really enjoyed the cinematics and story there too. Im on a PVP server and the players in my guild that only pvp still do dailys on makeb and black hole every day. I think you just want to have your cake and eat it.
Im glad you like PvE and enjoy cinematics. I personally couldn't care less and am not interested in storylines, cartel market or leveling outside warzones. I play this game for fun and entetainment, and i dont find PvE any of those 2.

-Why should i then be forced into it? Give me 1 single good reason why there shouldn't be a simular "credit grind" available for PvPers? Im sure the devs could come up with something that delivers a smaller challange, simular to the difficulty of getting all dailies done from any PvE mission area.
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