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RotHC // 2.0 : Healing - It's ridiculous.

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RotHC // 2.0 : Healing - It's ridiculous.

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Never_Hesitate
05.03.2013 , 08:51 AM | #431
Quote: Originally Posted by NoTomorrow View Post
Personally I would remove completely any talent of the sort: "increasing healing RECEIVED" which gives this huge advantage to cross healing. You can have your standard increasing healing DONE talents. Those should be enough.
And I'd remove any talent which applies a debuff: recieved healing reduced by x %

which gives a huge advantage to two classes (sniper and mara) against healers, you have a lot of dmg that should be enough

but now I will no longer feed the troll, sry people that I didn't realize earlier.
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NoTomorrow
05.03.2013 , 08:58 AM | #432
Quote: Originally Posted by Never_Hesitate View Post
And I'd remove any talent which applies a debuff: recieved healing reduced by x %

which gives a huge advantage to two classes (sniper and mara) against healers, you have a lot of dmg that should be enough

but now I will no longer feed the troll, sry people that I didn't realize earlier.
a single Taunt debuff (-30% DPS) more than compensates for the -20% shatter shot healing debuff.
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
Scatter Bombs are meant to be a fun bit of extra damage that occurs when you roll into or away from the action. That said, we’re okay with you trapping an unsuspecting enemy for a “wall bang” every now and then.

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Cilas
05.03.2013 , 08:58 AM | #433
Quote: Originally Posted by Never_Hesitate View Post
And I'd remove any talent which applies a debuff: recieved healing reduced by x %

which gives a huge advantage to two classes (sniper and mara) against healers, you have a lot of dmg that should be enough

but now I will no longer feed the troll, sry people that I didn't realize earlier.
Yup, took me a while to realize he was trolling too
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NoTomorrow
05.03.2013 , 09:01 AM | #434
Quote: Originally Posted by Cilas View Post
Yup, took me a while to realize he was trolling too
Cilas, right now you and your friend are at the very bottom of the pyramid:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gr...sagreement.svg
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
Scatter Bombs are meant to be a fun bit of extra damage that occurs when you roll into or away from the action. That said, we’re okay with you trapping an unsuspecting enemy for a “wall bang” every now and then.

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Never_Hesitate
05.03.2013 , 09:05 AM | #435
Quote: Originally Posted by NoTomorrow View Post
Cilas, right now you and your friend are at the very bottom of the pyramid:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Gr...sagreement.svg
Somebody who posts such horrible suggestions, shouldn't be taken seriously and we stopped doing so (at least in this thread)
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NoTomorrow
05.03.2013 , 09:07 AM | #436
Quote: Originally Posted by Never_Hesitate View Post
Somebody who posts such horrible suggestions, shouldn't be taken seriously and we stopped doing so (at least in this thread)
If those suggestions would be so horrible as you say, then it wouldn't be a problem for you to refute them.
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
Scatter Bombs are meant to be a fun bit of extra damage that occurs when you roll into or away from the action. That said, we’re okay with you trapping an unsuspecting enemy for a “wall bang” every now and then.

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Cilas
05.03.2013 , 09:23 AM | #437
Quote: Originally Posted by NoTomorrow View Post
If those suggestions would be so horrible as you say, then it wouldn't be a problem for you to refute them.
See 25 pages ago.

I didnt, and still don't, think you are genuinely serious. Therefore I felt no need to refute your arguments. They are too obviously incorrect.
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NoTomorrow
05.03.2013 , 09:33 AM | #438
Quote: Originally Posted by Cilas View Post
See 25 pages ago.

I didnt, and still don't, think you are genuinely serious. Therefore I felt no need to refute your arguments. They are too obviously incorrect.
I am not a proud/arrogant dude, I can admit my mistakes if you can kindly point to individual points where you disagree. We are all civilized people down here. If you are just lazy to reply, just say you are lazy and I shall understand. Who the hell cares about who is RIGHT ON INTERNET after all, especially in a developerless game.
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
Scatter Bombs are meant to be a fun bit of extra damage that occurs when you roll into or away from the action. That said, we’re okay with you trapping an unsuspecting enemy for a “wall bang” every now and then.

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Astarica
05.03.2013 , 12:35 PM | #439
Healing debuff is a bad idea because on a heavily healed target it basically says 'increase damage taken by 25%', because you know the only thing that's keeping that target alive is the heals. The funny thing is that while 'increase damage taken by 25%' would be an insane ability, it's still not enough to overcome heals right now which just says about how powerful they are.

From a design point of view, in PvP you're basically saying 'this class sucks which is why it gets this special heal debuff no one else has', which is a bad phiosophy, and I'd argue Snipers definitely don't suck for PvP anywya. It doesn't even make sense in PvE. I'm not aware of any encounter where an enemy has an uninterruptible heal that you must heal debuff to beat it, and if this encounter exists it's got to be a pretty dumb one (the mob clearly must heal for ridiculous numbers but just low enough while debuffed to be beatable, so why not just give it more HPs?)

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TwitchWINs
05.03.2013 , 12:49 PM | #440
Quote: Originally Posted by DweezillKagemand View Post
Healing is a crutch for bad players.
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