There is no good reasons why subscribers have to pay cartel coins in 2.1.

Burden of proof is on your end sir. You've already been flat out wrong in your claim that "Appearance Change" for $15 outdated.

You know what, I'm done. I think the burden of proof is on the people that keep stating that that is how it should be done just because WOW DOES IT THAT WAY! **** WOW!!!

There are several F2P/Freemium games (which WoW is not) that have this kind of customization and making changes is all for in-game currency (CO, STO, TSW, APB). Only NEW OPTIONS cost store currency. It seems to me that a F2P/Freemium game (like SWTOR) should be looking at what other F2P./Freemium games are doing, not at what the big subscription game on the block is doing.

All they need to do is add some code so that F2P players must pay cartel coins and subs can use in game credits. Not hard. Hell they could just leave the F2P out of the kiosk all together. Anything can be done with code man.

Goto town. Goto barbershop. Change all your facial features for in game credits.

TSW is not F2P, it's B2P. It cost $30. It just doesn't have a sub, if that's what you mean. Of course, as you've been told, GW2 is also B2P and they charge for any appearance change. Yes, I know you can buy gems from other players with gold, but it's no different than what you can do with Cartel items here. However they also don't give you any gems every month like you get here. Tera charges for appearance changes. So does Aion. Here is a thread from people complaining about the cost of doing an appearance change in Aion, you'll feel right at home.

People who are playing wow now, have been telling you and linking you the info bro. you cannot do anything but a basic haircut/color and depending on race a horn/(accessory type thing) change in the barber. When I played WoW it was the same... Also The modern MMO genre like TSW CoH Champs and so on are a completely different type of game. They are not based around the EQ/WoW model at all. Which SWTOR very clearly is based around.

I'll try to explain

In CoH, TSW, Champs and so forth your character's look and clothing have absolutely no (or very little) correlation to your character's ability at all. Leaving the option of letting people change every aspect of their character at a whim as a great money sink. In those games you go to a vendor and can spend tons of money to change every aspect of your character and it has no effect on your ability in game. One of the major reasons for that is those games dont have gear in the traditional sense of the word (as far as MMO go) These games are designed for people that love to play dress up on their characters and therefore have a huge active RP/casual community, but also have a lot of turn around as far as lasting players go. There isn't much to do for the grind crowd.

However In games like L2, LOTRO, SWTOR, WoW and the like, your character's clothing and overall look is a direct representation of what your character is actually wearing as far as gear is concerned. These games do not focus character customization because it is not a Huge draw for them. The treadmill gear grind and constant endgame race is the draw for these games. That's why even the ones with the most robust systems for customization like LOTRO or even WoW do not have anywhere near the customizability that a game like Vanilla CoH had almost a decade ago. And they never will. It is not the focus or draw of this genre of MMORPG.

And you were rewarded for that loyalty with additional CC when the game went F2P.

Meh, don't pay then. You don't need to change your appearance. You want to, but you don't need to. Pay when you can afford it. It's not going to be going anywhere.

Okay, let's start with the assumption that your CC stipend is an allowance that makes everything in-game accessible to subbers because they can just use their stipend to pay for it. Now let's flash forward a year and see that now our monthly stipend is necessary to pay for appearance changes, changing you ship interior, changing your guild station interior, hiring new companions, getting a Star Fighter (new type of ship) so you can participate in the new SSSP. Now assume you want to do all these things for a character you haven't played in a while but you've been spending your monthly allowance on gamble boxes (because they keep putting such kool things in those) and now you have to pay more to do any of that. Yeah, sorry that is not free access to subs.

Um, no it isn't. Not anymore. There are level 55 Sith Marauders running around in level 1 Smuggler outfits and vice versa. How does that correlate to anything game affecting?

Also, that has nothing to do with changing my Complexion, my Hair Color, my Tattoos, etc..

Want to try that again?