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MajikMyst

04.30.2013 , 01:14 PM \| #591	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by noobzor That completely misses the point, though. Though the original wording did not specifically state as much, the implication was that subscribers would not only have access to all current character creation choices, but to all future character creation choices as well. When you advertise a statement like that, the consumer naturally assumes that it is true now and will continue to be true for the lifetime of the product. Changing the advertised benefits of being a subscriber means that now when we look at the list of subscriber benefits, we have to add "...until we decide to change it" to the end of every advertised benefit. That does not instill confidence in the product or the company providing it. Is it legal? Yes, I believe it is. Is it ethical? That is a matter of no small debate. Does it inspire loyalty in your paying subscribers? No, absolutely not. It did apply to all future choices.. Until people made a stink in this thread.. Now they are going to be ultra specific since the obvious is obviously to difficult for some people.. I feel bad they felt the need to change the site.. That people are so nit picky and greedy.. I mean it is just to much to pay 600cc, even though every subscriber gets about that much every month for free.. So even though we have to pay 600cc.. We still have full access to all character creation choices.. For Free.. Now it is just going to be spelled out a little differently.. In an effort to curtail any future misunderstanding about the obvious and the incredibly simple.. No.. This was not specifically directed at you so please don't read it as such.. Thanks..
Who is the more foolish? The fool or the fool that follows him? [.] Lost but never forgotten!! 12-01-2011 R.I.P.

Andryah

04.30.2013 , 01:18 PM \| #592	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by MajikMyst How is this a breach of anything?? Though in fairness... and to go off topic for a moment... all signs indicate that some are having a breach IN their pants over this. On a more serious note though. This is just this weeks complaint_de_jour. It will pass. Next comes /ranting when the content goes live and people's personal expectations on specific content is not met precisely as they personally desire. The content being released is going to be low hanging fruit for complaining and gnashing of teeth simply because it's new cosmetic content and people seem to take the minutiae of cosmetics as seriously as the minutiae of mechanics inside an Op. And, interestingly enough.. that too shall pass... like it always does.
When you find yourself surrounded by hostile Clowns... always go for the "Juggler" first.

MajikMyst

04.30.2013 , 01:24 PM \| #593	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah Though in fairness... and to go off topic for a moment... all signs indicate that some are having a breach IN their pants over this. Oh thank you!!! That gave me a good laugh!! I needed that!!!
Who is the more foolish? The fool or the fool that follows him? [.] Lost but never forgotten!! 12-01-2011 R.I.P.

MajikMyst

04.30.2013 , 01:33 PM \| #594	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Syas I am still hoping we will see Cathar free for Subscribers, but if we don't, we haven't been lied to. We will see it free to subscribers as long as you count the free complementary coins we get as free.. That seems to be the big issue.. Using free coins to buy something somehow makes that something not free.. That is why subscriber get those coins.. Is for times like this.. So we have the means to get something without incurring an additional cost.. Real cost not game cost.. F2P people will have to purchase those coins.. We will not.. Some here don't consider those coins as being free as we have to pay for our subscriptions to get them.. Free with stipulations or conditions is a common business practice.. Us paying a subscription doesn't make those coins any less free.. I am sure you know this though..
Who is the more foolish? The fool or the fool that follows him? [.] Lost but never forgotten!! 12-01-2011 R.I.P.

MajikMyst

04.30.2013 , 01:37 PM \| #595	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by SithVeritas Except that a legacy unlock only requires a sub, maybe some credits and actually playing the game, not having to wait for someone else to buy a QOL feature so you can buy it from them in credits like any other F2P who just decided to give this game a try. I believe it's the reason people sub to begin with. I am not sure what your point is here.. A legacy unlock only works for characters on a single server.. An account unlock works for all characters on all servers and all legacies.. So it being an account unlock makes legacy a moot issue..
Who is the more foolish? The fool or the fool that follows him? [.] Lost but never forgotten!! 12-01-2011 R.I.P.

Sprgmr

04.30.2013 , 01:38 PM \| #596	Quote
HOW ABOUT THIS: Don't give me my next month's stipend of 600CC, just unlock Cathar for me. Would everyone be up in arms if there was an option like that? I don't use my Cartel coins for anything useful anyway, I just buy the latest pack and always get bad luck. It's a fun little game.

Andryah

04.30.2013 , 01:42 PM \| #597	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Sprgmr HOW ABOUT THIS: Don't give me my next month's stipend of 600CC, just unlock Cathar for me. Would everyone be up in arms if there was an option like that? I don't use my Cartel coins for anything useful anyway, I just buy the latest pack and always get bad luck. It's a fun little game. You do know there are people that could care less about Cathar and will want their monthly coin reward to use for other things, right? TL;DR BAD IDEA
When you find yourself surrounded by hostile Clowns... always go for the "Juggler" first.

Sprgmr

04.30.2013 , 01:45 PM \| #598	Quote
That's why I said an option. Read it all before going at me. Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah You do know there are people that could care less about Cathar and will want their monthly coin reward to use for other things, right? TL;DR BAD IDEA

Kilora

04.30.2013 , 01:49 PM \| #599	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Sprgmr HOW ABOUT THIS: Don't give me my next month's stipend of 600CC, just unlock Cathar for me. Would everyone be up in arms if there was an option like that? I don't use my Cartel coins for anything useful anyway, I just buy the latest pack and always get bad luck. It's a fun little game. How is that really any different than using the stipend to unlock Cathar. . . ? If people need something like that because they can't control themselves and save the 600cc to unlock cathar. . . I guess I just don't understand. Why is that situation different than just using the 600cc to unlock Cathar anyway?

SithVeritas

04.30.2013 , 01:52 PM \| #600	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by MajikMyst I am not sure what your point is here.. A legacy unlock only works for characters on a single server.. An account unlock works for all characters on all servers and all legacies.. So it being an account unlock makes legacy a moot issue.. A legacy unlock is available when you sub, and you can unlock it by either subbing or buying the purple Cartel unlock. Much like HK-51. Account unlock = real money. Your response: ''But you get cartel coins when you sub so it's free.'' My response: ''It isn't free.'' rinse&repeat. Not doing this. Good convo.

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