Subscription: Advertisement vs Truth

I am so amazed at the fact that people think race is not character creation. Ok go make a character without choosing a race and see how far you get. It is the EPITOME of character creation.

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So which race are you not able to create that is stated to come with the game exactly ?

Dude listen to you?? Did you read this before pressing the submit button?? How many coins did you need prior to the game going F2P?? Seriously?? You feel that is a valid point how exactly?? Of course you didn't need any, there was no market then.. So what??

Ok.. Look.. I don't know what your issue is here.. But seriously.. Your post hardly seem relevant to the point you are trying to make..

In the simplest of terms..

I paid my first subscription fee Jan. 20th 2012.. I have been on the 6mo subscription ever since.. The amount I paid has not changed.. In fact the amount anyone has paid has not changed since they started their subscription.. Originally there was no Cartel Market and no F2P.. So.. None of the subscribers got cartel coins as a monthly grant.. Obviously we didn't need it at that point in time.. In either Oct. or Nov. 2012, F2P and the Cartel Market was launched.. All Subscribers also received back pay to the start of their subscription.. We didn't have to do anything for this and there was no expectation, before it was announced it would happen.. Would you care to calculate, how much all those coins were worth?? I want to say I got something 7.7k or something.. Sorry.. Ledger doesn't go back that far for me to verify..

The problem you are having is that the price of our subscriptions have not changed.. So anything added to the game after launch is technically free to a subscriber.. In that we pay for things with our continued subscription.. The price of our subscription didn't change to account for our grant of coins.. Therefore they are free..

I think you missed the point..

The point is, neither faction had complete access to all the races available.. There wasn't a single republic player that could make a Chiss trooper, unless they unlocked the chiss species.. Are you with me??

Is the chiss not part of the character creation?? Are you going to QQ about how the republic faction didn't have complete access to all the species from the start?? Get the point now??

The Cathar is a new species.. There is no reason it should be automatically unlocked for either faction.. The idea of unlocking species has been in the game since before launch..

This thread is nothing more than a few people QQ about something that has been in the game since the beta.. Either that or they feel so entitled that they shouldn't have to unlock a NEW species being added.. Even though unlocking species wasn't a new concept..

Yeah but as a subscriber I'm not prevented from making Chiss character.

Of course I'm not going to complain about not having access to Chiss from the start, because I do have access to them. One of the advertised benefits of subscribing is that you get full access to the games character creation options. Someone who is not a subscriber does not have to creating a Chiss character. You cannot go and spend in game credits and remove the restrictions on them.

The website says that as a subscriber I get full access to all character creation options. Therefore yes, as a subscriber I should be feel entitled to have access to all character creation options.

No.. I think you are the one doing that...

As I have said before..

What did a republic player need to do to make a Chiss trooper?? Do you know?? He had to unlock the chiss species by either playing one to 50 on the imp side, or buying the unlock with either credits, as of the Market, Cartel Coins could be used as well..

The issue that all the QQ'ers have is that this argument is about an existing reality.. So there is no issue.. Unless you all are prepared to get up and demand that all the species be available for both factions.. None of you have much to say..

The Cathar is a new species and there is no reason that it should be unlocked for either faction.. It is new and being added to the game.. New meaning, not in the game at launch.. The idea of unlocking species is not new.. Not new meaning in the game at launch.. Actually in the game at beta, but who cares right??

The Cathar being an unlock on the Cartel Market in no way violates anything that Bioware has said about being a subscriber.. We have our monthly grant.. So we do have the ability to purchase the unlock free of charge.. It isn't biowares job to tell you how to spend your money, other than to say you get the grant for a reason.. How you spend it is your own decision.. If spent your money and have to wait.. That is your problem...

Like said.. There is nothing to discuss here..

Well I think this will be the thing that makes me cancel my sub. Having gotten the CE with the promis of ingame vendor updates and now this, since I don't want to use bad language you can imagine what I would have written here. Anybody wonder why EA got voted the *******st company 2 years in a row.

Perhaps but not with the barbershop which is coin only.
Besides this thread isn't only about Cathars, it's also about 2.1 customization and the barbershop.

Many people say otherwise. Besides, story = story and is only a part of the content. Cosmetics, gear, vehicles, all this is content as well.
And what sparkled all these answers to what I posted is the fact I said :

Complimentary cartel coins are no more complimentary and with all of you saying "you gotta save them" for the new content/system/whatever instead it really means that : a whole new "meaning" of complimentary.

A candid subber who understood the word for what it really means just burns through his 500 or 600 CC as he gets them, on packs, on gear, on whatever, and silently thanks BW.
When Cathars are out, if the guy isn't rich with credits, and when the barbershop is out : he'll be left with a very sour taste and then only then will he understand the real meaning of BW's so-called complimentary definition.

That is : if he didn't understand that during Christmas already...

You are not prevented from making a Cathar either.. You get a monthly grant for a reason.. I will unlock the Cathar with my grant money.. If you have spent all yours.. Who's fault is that??

And you were limited as to what faction you could make your chiss.. You could not make one on the republic side could you??

Do you see how your statement is an oxymoron?? You don't have access to all races on both factions.. Some people don't want to play one faction or the other.. So your statement is a fallacy.. If you want to make a chiss trooper, you will have to unlock the species.. Subscriber or not.. This is a new race to the game.. Why should it be unlocked for both factions?? Or perhaps only Republic players get it, and imp players have to unlock it?? How would that sound?? I think that would satisfy your example.. Doesn't it??

You do.. Some you just have to unlock.. Nothing has changed.. This is how it has always been.. I fail to see why people get bent out of shape about it..

I thought it was 500 for subs.. 100 for CE.. 100 for security..

For a total available of 700cc??

Or am I missing something??