Subscription: Advertisement vs Truth

You make me laugh, right get your calculator out, how much is it for operations,warzone,space and flashpoint unlocks for 4 weeks. Now take how much that is and take away subscription cost and see if you have enough to get those coins with the change. You know what you cant cos the subscription is cheaper then the passes and you get coins ONTOP.

all those species can be unlocked through in game means. either credits. cartel coins are just one of 3 options to access them. or leveling a character. Cathar however are cartel coin only. how do you not see the difference is beyond me.

Dude.. You have failed to show that there is even an issue.. There is no arrogance in my post.. Only undeniable facts.. You simply can't refute any of it with facts of your own and your post above shows that..

There is nothing to talk about here and that isn't opinion.. I mean seriously.. When your false advertisement claim fell on it's face and made you look somewhat foolish.. You went for the slippery slope approach and compared the Cathar Species to an Op or a flashpoint.. Which again made you look somewhat foolish.. First there is a huge difference between a species, which is just a vanity item, and an op or flashpoint, which is actual content.. They have nothing to do with each other and to claim your are fearful of something that hasn't happened, hasn't been announced will happen, and most likely will never happen, is somewhat foolish..

Despite it being brought up by many others and myself.. The simple fact that each faction in the game has never had full access to all the species is just plain ignored.. We have always had to unlock certain species to play on the other faction.. It just begs to wonder, why would a new race just be unlocked to both factions?? What is wrong with the existing idea of unlocking additional species.. You have simply yet to even address that fact..

So?? What exactly is your opinion and what facts do you base it on?? Because from what I have seem, you have been wrong since your very first post.. I do find it sad that Bioware has made the choice to change the wording on their website.. As if the obvious was just to hard to understand..

As I laid out in my post above.. This issue wasn't created by Bioware.. There is your truth and the truth backed by facts and logic..

So it is cartel only?? So what?? Big deal.. How does it make it different?? Subs get a monthly grant of CC.. Case closed..

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Most likely the Cathar are Cartel Market only is because of the F2P player.. They would actually have to buy the coins to unlock the species.. While subscribers don't have to.. Subscribers can use their grant, F2P has to purchase the coins..

You all have to keep in mind.. As much as we subscribers hate it.. When it comes to the F2P player, their only way of getting money is the Cartel Market.. If we were able to purchase the unlock with credits, then there less of a chance from getting money from the F2P player..

I know.. Nickel and diming right?? Well.. So many of you screamed for F2P.. I guess I just have to wonder why you all thought it was actually free.. Bioware has to make money somehow.. They have to pay their employees and pay their bills somehow.. The F2P players don't pay a subscription.. So they have to pay for other things that we don't..

Like the Cathar you might say?? Well.. We do have our monthly grant..

1. people sell them on GTN for low enough credit cost that even f2p accounts can afford them.
2. no everyone does all 3 every day every week often enough to even need to buy them.

so no, once again, those coins are NOT free. they are a coupon at best.

it IS a big deal. its not a big deal to you, but the fact remains that they illustrate how the game is shifting more and more into micro transaction mode as its primary income means. which makes me wonder why I'm still subscribing.

its not just Cathar that are cartel coin only. majority of the armor dyes as well as entire character re customization function including something as minor as hair style or extra scars? cartel coin only.
majority of the new armors and crystals? cartel market only. resellable, yes, but first they have to be bought from cartel market. majority of the new pets and speeders? again cartel market.

micro transactions.

I have no problem with micro transaction games. I have a problem with a micro transaction game trying to pretend to be a subscription game.

They are free coins.. I am getting pretty tired of people claim they aren't free??

Did our subscription price change when the game went F2P???
How many coins were we getting before the game went F2P??
Was it always intended that this game would go F2P and subscribers would get a grant of CC??

The coins are free.. That is the only way to look at it.. It is also a perk for subscribers to make being a subscriber that much better..

Right so your telling me that you can do it cheaper then a sub through the gtn, ok so why are you complaining here, drop the subs and go prefered, use your alloted coins and remove your restrictions and get your unlocks from the gtn. Use the cash you have saved to get cathar.

And dont presume that not everyone is the vast majority, The majority do a couple of warzones, some space missions, operations and flashpoints each week and you dont need todo them every day. And who else then F2P are gonna buy em huh. Subscribers dont need em so they have to be below the credit cap or no one is going to buy them shesh.

They are free coins and just to shut you up you can get them free cos you can get them for a security key which doesnt cost a thing if you get the mobile version.

Dude?? Seriously?? You are comparing apples to oranges.. None of that is even relevant..

The coins are free and there is simply no other way to look at them.. You are grasping at straws trying to put value on them.. Which is your big mistake.. Free things really have no value.. The only real value you can give them is how much would it cost to purchase 500 or 600cc if you have a security key.. That is it..

You can buy 450cc for $5 dollars.. So there is as close as you are going to get on a value.. Do we have to pay that to get our 5 or 600cc?? No.. Did our subscription price change to give us those coins?? No..

So they are free.. You didn't have to do anything extra to get them.. They became an added bonus to our existing subscriptions..

So they are free!!

how many things did I need cartel coins for prior to the game going f2p?
that's right, NOTHING, none. everything that was added to the game? was part of subscription. sure, you had to earn it in some way, whether it was drops, meta achievements or commendations. but it was IN game.

the information is mixed on the game being intended to go free 2 play.
but the fact remains that majority of the things currently added to the game? are cartel coin based. micro transaction based. sure my subscription cost didn't change. but the value of it seems to.

you don't get those 500 coins for free (yes 500) you pay subscription for them

the only free coins we get? are authenticator coins. and you don't need to be a subscriber to get them, only to add the key... which I did before the game even went f2p.

Before f2p was there even a cartel store, no.