Subscription: Advertisement vs Truth

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Because is there is no wiggle room. Flat out. You can't argue that the Cathar race costs subscribers anything, because it doesn't. You can't deny that. If your interpretation of the Cathar race is that they're trying to nickel-and-dime subs for new races, I can only laugh. Truth is that new races are usually released in much more expensive expansions. Truth is that subs won't have to spend an extra dollar to get the Cathar race. Truth is getting the Cathar race is an option which is a good thing because I won't be forced to unlock someone I never intend to play.

This is such an awful argument I had to pop in. "You can't argue that the Cathar race costs subscribers anything, because it doesn't." Flat out wrong.

We get 500 cc as part of our subscription. Those 500 cc provide us with a choice as to how to spend it. We can choose to spend it on a pile of crates, we can spend it on unlocks, we can save it up and spend it on Cathar. BUT (and here's where your argument falls apart that the new race costs us nothing) we cannot spend that 500 cc on BOTH the Cathar and on something else we want. If we save it up and spend ccs on the new race it COSTS US something else we want. There's a trade off - a cost.

I'm glad you're happy to see the 500 cc a month as an extra. Please understand that to many of us, that is part of our subscription which we are paying for. It's not free. It comes as part of the package, which we pay for. Ergo, a cost is involved.

Now, we're clearly not in the sub gets you all the content era (and haven't been for awhile). People who are unhappy with this being a CM unlock are perfectly free to let BW know that they're unhappy before they go to the next step of unsubbing. That's part of the reason these forums are here. For my part, I still feel that I get a good value for my sub and am okay with these things being CM unlocks. I'm pretty pleased with the price they set for the Cathar; it's better than I'd figured. However, that doesn't mean those who aren't happy with this need to be belittled or attacked or beaten to death with poor arguments.

So basically your argument is they give people to much to spend it on and they cannot be trusted or have the sense to save those coins for the cathar.

No. That is not my argument. That is so far from my argument that I ask you to read my post a second time.

My argument is that the Cathar do indeed have a cost. It is 600 cc. That is 600 cc that you could have chosen to spend on something else if it were actually free. That means there is a cost involved.

Now, me, personally, I think 600 cc is a fair price. But to say that there is no cost is not accurate.

You said that the coins that subscriber get of 500-600 coins a month doesnt cover the cost of cathar as people have to look at the shiney shiney things and cannot be held responsible for spending those coins on the other shiney things in the candy shop. Your words.

Lol, not my words. But thank you for putting words in my mouth, they're tasty. False, but tasty.

We get 500 cc as part of our subscription. Those 500 cc provide us with a choice as to how to spend it. We can choose to spend it on a pile of crates, we can spend it on unlocks, we can save it up and spend it on Cathar.(and here's where your argument falls apart that the new race costs us nothing) we cannot spend that 500 cc on BOTH the Cathar and on something else we want. If we save it up and spend ccs on the new race it COSTS US something else we want. There's a trade off - a cost.

We get 500 cc as part of our subscription. Those 500 cc provide us with a choice as to how to spend it. We can choose to spend it on a pile of crates, we can spend it on unlocks, we can save it up and spend it on Cathar. BUT (and here's where your argument falls apart that the new race costs us nothing) we cannot spend that 500 cc on BOTH the Cathar and on something else we want. If we save it up and spend ccs on the new race it COSTS US something else we want. There's a trade off - a cost.

You said that the coins that subscriber get of 500-600 coins a month (not counting the extra 100 a month we get for the key) doesnt cover the cost of cathar as people have to look at the shiney shiney things and cannot be held responsible for spending those coins on the other shiney things in the candy shop. Your words.

Alrighty, let me go through this slowly. First of all, I didn't say that the 500-600 coins a month doesn't cover the cost of the Cathar. It might if someone chooses to save up their coins, or it might not if someone spends their coins on other things. Second, not sure what this whole cannot be held responsible thing is, since people are responsible for their own choices and nothing I said negates that.

What I'm saying, is that even if you save up those coins, you are using them to buy the race unlock instead of something else you might want. Now, keep in mind that I'm okay with this, I think this is fair, personally. But it is a COST. It is not FREE. Your cost is what you could have bought had you spent the ccs on other things.