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Shoogli

04.29.2013 , 06:13 PM \| #421	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Shingara So do you get the skiffs as part of your subscription then...................... Yes because I can buy it with credits.
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kirorx

04.29.2013 , 06:17 PM \| #422	Quote
I think alot of people assumed that the money made off the cartel market would be awesome because that money would be used to increase the frequency of updates and new content available for subscribers It would seem those people were wrong and money made off the cartel market is just more money made

Shingara

04.29.2013 , 06:20 PM \| #423	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Shoogli Yes because I can buy it with credits. f2p get ingame credits too so thats not part of your subscription. And i dont ever remember a time logging in it going here is 200k credits, thanks for subscribing have you.
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Ultramecha

04.29.2013 , 06:26 PM \| #424	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Shoogli Cosmetics isn't content ? Says who ? Says many people. Seriosly you think being a cat is content? You think speeders are content? Story = content, not cosmetics. Im sorry I fail to see what story you acquire with getting a new hair style...

Grayseven

04.29.2013 , 06:28 PM \| #425	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Shingara So do you get the skiffs as part of your subscription then...................... You are comparing apples to oranges in a nice straw man argument. Fluff that you can get only get from Cartel Packs is entirely different from additions to the base game such as Races and Classes. We know that certain fluff items will only come from Cartel Packs and we as subscribers have to decide if we want them or not. If we do, we have to purchase packs for credits on the GTN or with cash for CC's. Races are basic content, as should any cosmetic changes to characters be. The fact that BW/EA made certain statements to the effect that subscribers would get these sorts of updates for free while F2P players would have to purchase them not withstanding, content updates such as Races and character cosmetic changes fall under an update...not a new Cartel Market introduction. And the Dev response to this thread shows how much more often BW/EA will lie bald-faced straight to their players. More and more we will see "updates and improvements" go into the Cartel Market. If this trend continues I have no doubt we will start to see things like Crafting Schematics and High level mods go into the Cartel Market.
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Shingara

04.29.2013 , 06:31 PM \| #426	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Grayseven You are comparing apples to oranges in a nice straw man argument. Fluff that you can get only get from Cartel Packs is entirely different from additions to the base game such as Races and Classes. We know that certain fluff items will only come from Cartel Packs and we as subscribers have to decide if we want them or not. If we do, we have to purchase packs for credits on the GTN or with cash for CC's. Races are basic content, as should any cosmetic changes to characters be. The fact that BW/EA made certain statements to the effect that subscribers would get these sorts of updates for free while F2P players would have to purchase them not withstanding, content updates such as Races and character cosmetic changes fall under an update...not a new Cartel Market introduction. And the Dev response to this thread shows how much more often BW/EA will lie bald-faced straight to their players. More and more we will see "updates and improvements" go into the Cartel Market. If this trend continues I have no doubt we will start to see things like Crafting Schematics and High level mods go into the Cartel Market. Do you suddenly become a thunder cat by looking like a cathar, no its simply cosmetic.
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Ultramecha

04.29.2013 , 06:33 PM \| #427	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Grayseven You are comparing apples to oranges in a nice straw man argument. Fluff that you can get only get from Cartel Packs is entirely different from additions to the base game such as Races and Classes. We know that certain fluff items will only come from Cartel Packs and we as subscribers have to decide if we want them or not. If we do, we have to purchase packs for credits on the GTN or with cash for CC's. Races are basic content, as should any cosmetic changes to characters be. The fact that BW/EA made certain statements to the effect that subscribers would get these sorts of updates for free while F2P players would have to purchase them not withstanding, content updates such as Races and character cosmetic changes fall under an update...not a new Cartel Market introduction. And the Dev response to this thread shows how much more often BW/EA will lie bald-faced straight to their players. More and more we will see "updates and improvements" go into the Cartel Market. If this trend continues I have no doubt we will start to see things like Crafting Schematics and High level mods go into the Cartel Market. Unless that race has a new story or some advantage its fluff. Fluff that can be obtained with the complimentary cartel coins. So subscribers pay nothing... thats more than most mmos offer. Race changes in wow cost cash. They dont offer free coins to do it with a sub.

DaRoamer

04.29.2013 , 06:57 PM \| #428	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by Shoogli Yes because I can buy it with credits. You'll be able to do the same with the Carthar.

Hawkwalker

04.29.2013 , 07:33 PM \| #429	Quote
Quote: Originally Posted by DaRoamer You'll be able to do the same with the Carthar. When?
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nateslice

04.29.2013 , 07:39 PM \| #430	Quote
I think what was meant by "full access to customization" was that when you're creating your character you have access to all the "standard" options. F2P players are limited to three species, IIRC, unless they buy access to more. It could also be referring to "hide headgear" and "match color to chest". Subscribers have access to those options, while F2P don't unless they buy the unlock for it. Subscribers also have access to purple mods and shells when putting together a gear set, while F2P have to buy an artifact unlock to use those items. Those three things are about the extent of what could be called "character customization" at this time, so the chart does ring true.

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