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I'm Finding it Hard to Play a Dark Side Character, Suggestions?

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I'm Finding it Hard to Play a Dark Side Character, Suggestions?

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Bleeters
04.21.2013 , 11:36 PM | #51
Quote: Originally Posted by zzoorrzz View Post
I think when she goes DS, her true personality she was hiding all life finally reveals and she's happier than before actually.
Yes, I'm sure she was just subconsiously harbouring a deep contempt for everyone she'd ever cared for. That sounds entirely likely.

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Helig
04.22.2013 , 01:17 AM | #52
Comes off naturally on my Warrior and my Inquisitor.

Dark Side is not about evil. It's about conscious choice (Darth Bane, Exar Kun), or accepting a someone else's choice made for you (Anakin). Those who are conflicted, either abandon the Dark Side, or are destroyed by it.

The Dark Side is a very defined path, and a rather straightforward world view. According to its philosophy, the centre of being is you, and all that matters is you and your power. And that is not just a religious outlook. That's the way the Dark Side affects one's mind, gradually silencing mercy, charity, love, making more space for nothing but hatred (evident in Sith who reached the most power - Bane, Sidious, etc.).

Evaluating an individual, a Sith sees what the person can do for them and what he can do against them. To a Sith, other people are either assets, enemies, or creatures unworthy of notice. The helpless ones - the downtrodden, the weak, the poor, don't inspire mercy in a Sith. Usually it's apathy and and contempt. They deserve their suffering because they are weak, because they do not raise their heads, because they do not fight for what they think they deserve.

To play a convincing Dark Side Sith you must get their mindset - despising all weakness. Exposing oneself, entrusting yourself to another, leaving oneself at another's mercy. Such displays inspire nothing but hate and contempt (apathy, in best cases), on which he can choose to act - not because he thinks that it's the right thing to do, but because he can. Because he has the power, because he knows he will get away with it and because he is irritated.

Granted, choosing only DS options in SWToR make your character look like an idiot, or a madman. But it is relatively easy to avoid dumb choices, as long as you keep the Sith ideals and mindset in consideration
"I'm not *giving* him cake, I'm *assaulting* him with cake!" - Pinkamena Diane Pie

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Illides
04.22.2013 , 04:07 AM | #53
As of right now, I have a lvl 29 sith Juggernaut and he has only made DS choices. He holds the Empire above all. The Sixth code runs deep in him. He will take bribes and hand over innocent for the views of the empire. He is learning now that to become a Darth and rise above his master is to make "in the moment" decisions that benefits him and the empire. To this, he will start making some LS choices as he learns being pure evil will get him no where but instead to look out for both his interests and empires, not just the empires alone.


He doesn't like to kill vital assets to the empire as Lord Bar as has made him do in the past unless they truly deserve it.
I shall show the Republic through death what the power of the Sith can do.

-Lord Xamnis

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zzoorrzz
04.22.2013 , 04:57 AM | #54
Quote: Originally Posted by Bleeters View Post
Yes, I'm sure she was just subconsiously harbouring a deep contempt for everyone she'd ever cared for. That sounds entirely likely.
Maybe she didn't. Peer pressure?

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Arutar
04.22.2013 , 05:54 AM | #55
Quote: Originally Posted by Berronaxftw View Post
As the title says.. I want to play a dark side character because I feel like i'm missing out on a lot of lore if I don't..
You don`t miss out on any lore (Bioware did not expect certain alignment choices for the course of the classes stories), so play however you like.

Also, more often than not, dark side choices actually hurt the empire's long term goals (making allies or friends often yields better results thank just killing everybody).

Therefore being light side comes rather easy for any imperial, who likes not simply being a dick (because that is what dark side choices often boil down to). A honorable, but uncompromising Sith which hates the Jedi/Republic and wants the Empire to win the war (and is not only in it for the joys of abusing others) will likely be neutral or light sided under this system, rather than darksided.

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Arkonor
04.27.2013 , 09:08 PM | #56
This thread is interesting. When I was playing KOTOR 1, after beating the game 3 times, I simply couldn't choose any dark side option because I always regretted my actions. However, here in SWTOR, most of my choices vary from light to darkside options (with a slight prevalence of the first ones) It depends of the context, some areas tend to show the darkside options as chaotic murdering, and the others as severe punishments.

My vision of my character is a dominant one, however he dislikes unjustified killing and careless actions (he identifies those actions with stupidity), the last mission I played was about an unfaithful wife who gave imperial secrets to a republican womanizer spy. The first part was quite obvious, kill the spy. However, the second one was very tough for me. If she wouldn't have given imperial secrets to that spy, I would have spared her. She deserved a punishment, but not death. However, even if she didn't know he was a spy, no sane person would have messed with such important information. Not specially in the Empire where the punishment is usually death. I was sorry for her, I don't like to kill someone with terror in his/her eyes, but there were loose ends in the conversation, and I had to fill the gaps with imagination (for example, asking for more details about how did she find the data) Also, she might have seduced her husband to gain access to military secrets and then playing dumb to pass them to the republic. It was another possibility. At least, her death was quick.

There are things both in the Jedi Code and in the Sith Code which are very shortsighted. For example, both Sith and Jedi, dissuade about love, because it can take you to the other side of the Force. The Force (Darkside or Lightside) have many uses, it's a tool. You are not a slave of it, and knowledge of other options is always possitive, it gives you multiple paths to follow. Punish those who are against you, and help your allies to become strong (not to mention that those who didn't oppose to you can be useful in the long-term) I can't avoid it, but I see my self as a Revanite. Revan was the first force user I know about who was truly free

And taking the things a bit further, I find the mysterious concept of the Force fascinating. Not only its secrets, but also the ways it can give you real freedom. For an inquisitor, it would be incredibly useful to have some dark power to read other people's mind. Torture may be recreational for the most sadist siths, but that is an empty action for me, it doesn't give me pleasure. However, reading the thoughts of other people, or changing them forcibly to make them fit in your long-term vision of the world, is more fulfilling

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Beniboybling
04.28.2013 , 03:25 AM | #57
Quote: Originally Posted by Arkonor View Post
And taking the things a bit further, I find the mysterious concept of the Force fascinating. Not only its secrets, but also the ways it can give you real freedom. For an inquisitor, it would be incredibly useful to have some dark power to read other people's mind. Torture may be recreational for the most sadist siths, but that is an empty action for me, it doesn't give me pleasure. However, reading the thoughts of other people, or changing them forcibly to make them fit in your long-term vision of the world, is more fulfilling
Torture is a form of mind control, just throwing it in there.

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Arkonor
04.28.2013 , 07:10 AM | #58
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Torture is a form of mind control, just throwing it in there.
It's like comparing a bike vs a motorcycle

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Beniboybling
04.28.2013 , 08:01 AM | #59
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It's like comparing a bike vs a motorcycle
Both get you from A to B, one does the job better. Not that I'm condoning torture or anything. And I definitely see the benefits of making the enemy see through your eyes, however not all enemies have uses.

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AlexDougherty
04.28.2013 , 08:47 AM | #60
Quote: Originally Posted by Arkonor View Post
It's like comparing a bike vs a motorcycle
Not really, effective torture breaks the will, which can then be bent to your bidding. So it is a form of mind control, The pain is just a medium through which it is excerted, not that the person feeling the pain would agree.
Peace can be found, above all passions. Through passion, I may gain strength.
Through strength, I may gain power. Through power, I may gain victory.
But for every enemy fallen, a new foe rises.
For every chain broken, new chains bind me. Only the Force can set me free.