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New Hardmode Tuning vs PUG


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zzoorrzz
04.25.2013 , 05:22 PM | #41
No need to tune down anything IMO. As I've already played every 55 HM multiple times, I'm almost a bit disappointed how simple the boss mechanics are. Really a group of semi-competent players like myself shouldn't have significant problem. Of course a wipe happens here and there, but it would be sad if it didn't happen at all.

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Brannicus
04.26.2013 , 06:46 AM | #42
New HM's are not tuned to pugs, and I agree.

3-4 wipes and guess what? You are out nearly 100K in repair costs. This isn't sustainable, especially with crap credit gains from warzones, space missions, and FP's.

Pugs find the HM's difficult, and there is clearly a gap in gear progression..

What do I mean gap?

Well for me, augmented 146 armor in MOST CASES is better than the 156 basic comm gear. So it looks like I am a 146 geared tank, when in reality my stats surpass the 156 basic comm gear. That's a gear gap that isn't acceptable. Why would I choose gloves at 156 that grant 12 more armor, but I lose 54 shield, and gain 47 accuracy? That's simply idiotic the 156 tanking armor is poorer quality than the 146 stuff..

So what happens is there is a BIIIIIIIIIIG gear gap between 146 and 160's, that leaves pugs in the dust, especially if the pugs aren't able to get into guild operations and at least grab some gear.

I get the impression this game isn't well thought out, and lacks good production values, and direction.

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Brannicus
04.26.2013 , 06:49 AM | #43
Quote: Originally Posted by Brutal View Post
im not eliitist and run all hm 55 in pug grups only once didint fini**** (done abouth 40-50 runs) done lots of runs with pepole in 61 gear 2 maned atris if u know youre class and lern boss fights they are easy
dont try to face roll them like lvl 50 ones take youre time
Maybe stop playing the game and go back to school? You type like a 5 year old.

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Thundergulch
04.26.2013 , 07:02 AM | #44
Quote: Originally Posted by Brannicus View Post
3-4 wipes and guess what? You are out nearly 100K in repair costs. T
I really wish you people would STOP LYING about repair costs!
It's nowhere near that much.
ONE death is like 6k credits, NOT 20k.
I don't know what hicktown skool you went to, but in mine, they taught us how to add.

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Thundergulch
04.26.2013 , 07:03 AM | #45
Quote: Originally Posted by Brannicus View Post

Well for me, augmented 146 armor in MOST CASES is better than the 156 basic comm gear..
It's not.
Not even close.
Get the newer gear, stop sucking.

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Atramar
04.26.2013 , 07:27 AM | #46
1.they are fine.
2.l2p.
3.see 1 and 2
Tracer Legacy, The Red Eclipse.
Not reading colored text, it hurts my eyes. Sorry (unless it's a dev post)
L55:Sniper,Operative,Juggernaut,Assassin,Marauder, Powertech,Guardian,Commando,Scoundrel
to finish:Shadow(41),Sage(53),Merc(39). 29.07.2013

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Eternalnight
04.26.2013 , 07:33 AM | #47
Quote: Originally Posted by Thundergulch View Post
It's not.
Not even close.
Get the newer gear, stop sucking.
Only people who think higher item rating makes gear better are sucking.

There are countless examples where optimized lower gear is effectively better than stock items of higher rated gear.

One needs to look at the effective stats, not total stats.

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Never_Hesitate
04.26.2013 , 07:37 AM | #48
Quote: Originally Posted by Eternalnight View Post
Only people who think higher item rating makes gear better are sucking.
the same mod/armoring/enhancement of the same quality with a higher item rating is indeed better

Quote: Originally Posted by Eternalnight View Post
There are countless examples where optimized lower gear is effectively better than stock items of higher rated gear.
That's why you will begin with mixxing the higher mods that are profitable for your stats into the old gear
T3-M4 - Lvl 55 Chars:
T'hana Jugg, Saleona Sniper, S'inthoras Mara,Hannahla Merc, Eleondra&Eleondraa Ops,
Leeonira Sorc, CaphalÝr Sorc, Kindarya Assa, LeoniŽ PT,
Revuna Mando, Leojuna Scoundrel, Simon'e Shadow, Sileona Guardian

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MorgothPl
04.26.2013 , 08:05 AM | #49
Quote: Originally Posted by Never_Hesitate View Post
the same mod/armoring/enhancement of the same quality with a higher item rating is indeed better



That's why you will begin with mixxing the higher mods that are profitable for your stats into the old gear
Exactly - for example the new 66 juggernaut set is rubbish, if you don't kick out alacrity/accuracy/absorption stuff. Once you itemise it, and make sure your stats are correct with what theorycrafters tell, you beat the old gear by lot.

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Brutal
04.26.2013 , 08:47 AM | #50
Quote: Originally Posted by Brannicus View Post
Maybe stop playing the game and go back to school? You type like a 5 year old.
let me fix this for u

niejestem elitom graczy ale zrobilem duzo fp z grup findera niewiem dlaczego ludzie nazekajom one som latwe trzeba tylko sie nauczyc grac swojom klasom i taktyk na bossa

haws that u *********** ***** english is not my native lengue so go **** youre sellf before u criticise others maby ask for a reson