2.0.1 55 lvl wz bolster fixed or not?

Why? why I should drop 7 pieces of conqueror pvp gear for pve gear for PVP? don't you get that's precisally the wrong stuff?

they said they were fixing that in 2.0. I had in 1.7 barrels pve and armorings PVE in bracers and belt.. why?

LOL read the thread, nobody here thinks their EWH should still be BiS.

It was aimed at the people who were complaining about having to grind a new PvP set. I never mentioned or even insinuated that anyone had said that WH should be BiS.

You clearly aren't understanding the point he makes. Let me make it simple:

Your PVP gear at 2018 EXP has 5% more expertise than your PVE geared friend.

That 5% more expertise gives you a lot more than 5% extra base stats does. Therefore, your gear is stronger, even if the simple stats (main + endurance) don't say it that directly.

That's why his initial point was: Bolster and Expertise is too complex for people to understand that they actually have an advantage when they claim the other one has.

Is Campaign gear still viable? Is there a vendor that still sells it? S the F Up

The point is this: before 2.0 was released to live (for the pre-orders) the devs said that WH/EWH, as it was with Expertise on it, would be viable. A week after it went live, they said that although they were having issues, that it "would again be viable!" Then, several days later when the patch came, they stealth stripped Expertise off it w/ the exceptions of the relics and removing the crystals from the main & offhand weapon pieces --- the latter, btw, was something they had previously said would be a problem in the bolster system: having an item w/ Expertise in one slot, but not all. The removal of Expertise from WH/EWH gear WAS NOT THE DESIGN, it was NOT what was intended. They just threw a Hail Mary at the Eleventh hour because they didn't know what else to do because of their problems. Quit acting as though that was the plan all along. They were screwed and couldn't fix it.

The problem is that most people can't do math to account for the overall effect of expertise. Of course your numbers must go up if you replace same tier PvP gear with same tier PvE gear, otherwise they wouldn't even be a point to have PvE gear. Full Conqueror = 60% mod, while full UW = ~40% mod. So with full conqueror say your autoattack says it does 1000 tool tip damage, but it's really 1600 damage to another player. With full UW, your tool tip damage may say it does 1100 damage, but it's really 1100 * 1.4 = 1540 damage to another player. Likewise replacing Partisan with blue 66 gear will usually result the tooltip number going up, because blue 66 gear still have less expertise than Partisan gear and even a very small amount of it has a significant effect. The Partisan power proc relic (~435 power?) is only worth 7% more tooltip damage when it's on.

I'm seeing people basically saying like "I got 100 more mainstat and endurance and only lost 200 expertise, how can that possibly be worse?' Well 200 expertise is a 6% mod. 100 endurance is 1000 HP, and hopefully that is not 6% of your HP (that'd mean your max HP is 16666). Likewise I'd hope 100 mainstat isn't 6% of your DPS as that'd imply your DPS is ridiculously low to begin with. If you use 30K HP as a convenient base line, 1000 HP is 3.3% HP, so 100 endurance is only worth 110 expertise and that's overlooking the fact that reducing damage is always superior to increasing HPs by the same % because heals are usually not % based.

Nobody cares that they have to grind a new PvP set. We had a level increase, we all understand it's time to grind new gear. Thing is, we can't tell if grinding new gear is worth it due to bolster. It's really difficult to justify grinding up Partisan gear right now due to it's marginal stat increase and the massive expertise bolster applied to PvE gear.

No .. you are not getting the point.. read the xp when you mouse over.. 2018 give u 2% dmg boost more and 1% more dmg reduction that my friend in gear 66 with 1920 xp ... no even in 69 or 72..

If this is true than this is still broken, 5% for the highest tier of pve gear would be about right. 2% for a mid tier set is abominable. JUST REMOVE BOLSTER FROM 55 WZS!

You only have to skip to page one to find atleast one person complaining about having to grind again.

I don't really get what the problem is here. Are people just playing for comms? If they are playing anyway they're eventually going to have enough comms for a set. That set might not be significally better than the top PvE set but it's atleast not worse and it's better than the WH set. If they rather play operations for UW they're free to do so instead.

Actually, I know what the problem is. The problem is that people expect to have like 50 % better stats on their PvP gear compared to someone in PvE gear because that's the only way they can "pwn newbs".