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Concern with Vice-Commandant pack (and suggestion)

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Concern with Vice-Commandant pack (and suggestion)
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Jeweledleah
04.23.2013 , 09:10 PM | #31
are they vendorable? just asking, because rep items for other rep can be sold to vendor for a few credits here and there.
actually, I think ability to trade rep items for certificates at some higher ration wouldn't be a bad idea, IMO. (I'm also a fan of idea of being able to trade gree rep tokens for gray helix components) keep certificates bind on legacy, make rep tokens tradable at similar ratio of warzone coms to planetary coms. that should still keep them relatively rare, but at the same time, give extended use to rep tokens.

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Kubernetic
04.23.2013 , 09:50 PM | #32
Quote: Originally Posted by DarkWyndre View Post
If I cap a rep from dailies in the game, I still get the credits and commendations for doing the quests if I go do them again.

If I cap the Cartel Resale Corp. reputation (which I have already done), if I buy new packs/crates, I no longer get the full reward for spending my real world money. You're comparing apples to oranges here. Rep from dailies for the factions is a by-product of doing the daily missions. Rep with the CRC is something you pay for as part of every pack/crate, and so it should have a purpose/use after the rep cap is reached. If we were talking about quest rewards, that would be one thing. We're talking about people spending actual money (you have to spend $60 minimum to buy a hypercrate, but will have some coins left over), and Bioware should do everything they can to ensure that if a player is going to plop down $60 and buy a hypercrate, the player will actually get something worthwhile out of it.
Not really true.

The reputation trophies for the Cartel Corp weren't even included in the first packs. They were an additional element that was only added after the reputation system was finished. So they were never really an item in the pack. They were an additional element that was solely related to rep.

After you've capped the rep, there's no purpose for them anymore, but that doesn't mean you're wasting your coins. And I highly doubt they're going to make the reputation trophies tradeable, as the purpose was to get you playing and playing more often. If they allow the Cartel Rep trophies to be sold, but not the other rep trophies, this will obviously be seen as favoritism.

So I'd say stash the reputation trophies away (you're still receiving them in the packs, after all, and keep them for when they eventually add a new Reputation level. Then you can automatically level it up with your stored rep.

But to say that you now are owed something else because you maxed your rep, not buying that one.
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MeRRR
04.24.2013 , 10:19 AM | #33
Quote: Originally Posted by DarkWyndre View Post
So,

I propose the following potential changes:

1.) Make the rep items tradeable so we can give them to friends or sell them on the GTN. This has the added benefit of addressing the vocal minority who complain about the rep being a real money requirement since they can just get the rep items on the GTN (presumably considerably cheaper than the packs go for).

2.) Allow us to trade the rep items in for Certificates. Let's say something like 2 or 3 of the purple rep items for a certificate, 4-6 of the blue ones for a certificate, and 8-12 of the green ones for a certificate. In this case only people with maxed rep with the CRC would be able to do the trade-in, and it means that if we buy a hypercrate and get a really bad streak and get all green rep items, we can at least turn that into 2 certificates from the crate. I imagine it would be more like 4-5 certificates per crate with this system, which means someone's dropping down about $100 to get one of the 10 certificate items, and it will be someone who already spent money previously to get packs/crates and get their rep maxxed out in the first place.

I think you're 2nd suggestion is pretty good.
Let me add a 3rd..

Include a vendor that will allow players to exchange rep tokens for different rep tokens. For example: if you maxed out Gree rep, you can trade them for Section x rep. Would probably have to have some sort of exchange rate that penalizes players slightly. Also, I would think that Makeb and Cartel would be able to be traded in, but not traded for, since you do have to spend real money in order to have the chance to obtain these.

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Exastify
04.24.2013 , 10:23 AM | #34
Quote: Originally Posted by MeRRR View Post
I think you're 2nd suggestion is pretty good.
Let me add a 3rd..

Include a vendor that will allow players to exchange rep tokens for different rep tokens. For example: if you maxed out Gree rep, you can trade them for Section x rep. Would probably have to have some sort of exchange rate that penalizes players slightly. Also, I would think that Makeb and Cartel would be able to be traded in, but not traded for, since you do have to spend real money in order to have the chance to obtain these.

That sounds really awesome. I'm sure there are tons of people out there who can't be bothered to do boring dailies for rep.

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Avicii
04.24.2013 , 10:27 AM | #35
Quote: Originally Posted by Levity View Post
I agree with the trading in the rep. tokens. But I wouldn't want to see the certs. on the GTN since it would definitely devalue the items. Who knows, I don't open those packs, like I said, I just sell them for credits so whatever they do it won't be affecting me.
Exactly this I agree the rep kinda sucks being capped but I think BW probably looks at it as an additional bonus. While some of us look at it as motivation to buy the packs for the certs so we can get older items from the vendor. I however dont want to see everyone with Revan's mask or whatever else is in there so the certs for sure should remain bound to legacy.

I think the trade in idea is the best one, that way we can still get some value out of the rep even if the trade in is at a low exchange rate.

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DarthTHC
04.24.2013 , 10:32 AM | #36
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
Heh, and people said that CM rep would be nigh impossible to cap.

Maybe stop buying packs for a while?

OR

Maybe acknowledge that, like every other rep in MMOs, once you cap it... that's it. done. You can still do rep based content... but you derive no benefit from it in terms of rep.
He said he wants to keep buying the packs. He wants to keep spending money to support the game. That's a great thing for all of us - subscribers and free players alike.

Why discourage him from buying packs?

In this case, we have a reasonable player who's going way over and above the norm to support the game financially who has posted a well thought out complaint and a few suggestions for improvement.

This is exactly the sort of post the community should be supporting.

We certainly shouldn't be discouraging his generosity or giving him the flippiant, "buck up cowboy" response!

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Arlon_Nabarlly
04.24.2013 , 10:40 AM | #37
Option 2 of the OPs statement seems pretty reasonble. I'd love to see option 1 happen, but I'm willing bet that will never happen.

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Themanthatisi
04.24.2013 , 10:53 AM | #38
Jawagrams alone is all I needed to see AGAIN to decide buying them has ended.... They pushed us a second time with that garbage, it will not happen to me a 3rd time.

The only way they will stop is if they see less money come in.

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Lyynk
04.24.2013 , 11:33 AM | #39
I like the idea of trading in the rep items for a certificate. I have not yet maxed out my cartel market rep, but I'm well into Champion. I've bought a few crates and have yet to see a single Certificate. =/

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EricMusco
04.24.2013 , 11:35 AM | #40 This is the last staff post in this thread.  
Hey DarkWyndre,

I spoke with the folks on the Cartel Market team about this. One thing that some players may not initially realize is that all of the Cartel Market Reputation items can be vendored for credits. I do realize this isn't exactly what you were putting forward as a suggestion, but it is an alternative use for them. Once you have maxed out your Reputation you can simply earn some free credits with every pack.

Either way I wanted you to know that this thread has been passed on to the team and in the meantime you can get yourself some credits by vendoring those Reputation tokens.

-eric
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