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Thanks Bioware- PvP is looking better!

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Thanks Bioware- PvP is looking better!

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Genttry
04.19.2013 , 11:42 PM | #71
Quote: Originally Posted by SOULCASTER View Post
Well here is the thing. I am all for NEW FORMS OF PVP in this game. As I personally get sick of the 8v8 warzones. Especially the regs, where you are forced to basically pug witih a bunch of window lickers. And the ranked pvp isn't much better because there is no ladder system. So its just new to maybe experience teams going up against ELITE teams over and over. So yeah, that gets old fast too. Which leaves us with....oh yeah, no other form of pvp.

So im all for them implementing things liek 3v3 and 5v5s. Even if i ended up not liking them, at least it would be new. People can always choose to opt out of doing them.

So as long as they didn't make those new 3v3 and 5v5 MANDATORY, because of some reward system or something, i'd be all for trying something new.
Roger, I hear you loud and clear. New is good. Some other people even mentioned they would like it as long as it isn't the only path to top-end gear.

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MotorCityMan
04.20.2013 , 12:04 AM | #72
I am all for the bolster system for many of the reasons OP has stated. I think most of the objections are coming from bads who are used to being OP dps deathmatch derps.

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Phrase
04.20.2013 , 01:21 AM | #73
Couldn't agree more. Now that I have Partisan gear and I know no one in the open world under 54 can even touch me, I'm having loads of fun filling my player kill achievements and class kill achievements by ganking level 26s on Tatooine.

Thanks for the incentivized PKing.

Sixgun
Satele Shan

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TheronFett
04.20.2013 , 01:31 AM | #74
Quote: Originally Posted by SomeJagoff View Post
not trying to be negative, but to be honest, it's hard to tell whether or not you're being sarcastic, because the general consensus is that bolster basically killed pvp permanently in this game. Those who are saying that bolster is great are just trolling...
Bolster has effectively removed the gear grind (and gap) from PvP. While this pisses off a lot of forum warriors, keep in mind that they represent a very small and vocal minority of the overall player base. At least on my server, PvP has a ton of new faces at all levels, which is a good thing.

95% of the whines I read about bolster come from players who
- Don't know how their class works
- Don't know how other classes work
- Can't figure out how to use spellcheck
- Are generally clueless

If that's the "general consensus" on the state of bolster, then you don't have a leg to stand on.

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Genttry
04.20.2013 , 05:19 AM | #75
Quote: Originally Posted by TheronFett View Post
Bolster has effectively removed the gear grind (and gap) from PvP. While this pisses off a lot of forum warriors, keep in mind that they represent a very small and vocal minority of the overall player base. At least on my server, PvP has a ton of new faces at all levels, which is a good thing.

95% of the whines I read about bolster come from players who
- Don't know how their class works
- Don't know how other classes work
- Can't figure out how to use spellcheck
- Are generally clueless

If that's the "general consensus" on the state of bolster, then you don't have a leg to stand on.
I agree. the benefts for organized PvP will be evident after Bioware fixes the inherent bugs with Bolster. Thanks for posting!

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LanceCorporalDan
04.20.2013 , 06:33 AM | #76
Quote: Originally Posted by TheronFett View Post
Bolster has effectively removed the gear grind (and gap) from PvP. While this pisses off a lot of forum warriors, keep in mind that they represent a very small and vocal minority of the overall player base. At least on my server, PvP has a ton of new faces at all levels, which is a good thing.

95% of the whines I read about bolster come from players who
- Don't know how their class works
- Don't know how other classes work
- Can't figure out how to use spellcheck
- Are generally clueless

If that's the "general consensus" on the state of bolster, then you don't have a leg to stand on.
Bolster shouldn't really be in 55 in my opinion.

Nor should it grant expertise in sub 55 since expertise has been stripped from sub 55 gear.
Neves - 55 Vanguard
Dahkaras - 55 AssassinKeelaran - 55Juggernaut
Kalkaran - 55 MercenaryKallim - 55 Operative

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Kirtastropohe
04.20.2013 , 08:11 AM | #77
Yep...pvp is better. All it took was two major patches (and I'm sure everything won't be fixed after Tuesday's patch) plus the removal of Exp and associated making of various gear and crystals useless. Simple, perfect, and everything is great. Oh wait, it's not great.

PVE gear reigning king. Having to use empty mod slots. Damage and healing way too high compared to pre 2.0. Reduced TTK....and not so much as a roadmap as to how to make sense of it all and figure out the best way to gear. That's success.

I'm not a bad PvPer, and I'm certainly not elite. I don't find it fun, at all, to pvp right now. Too many exploits and idiotic things going on. Can't see how that's a good thing to turn off some of your existing base. I am a subscriber, and I haven't played this game since the last fail patch. Maybe these changes will turn F2Pers into subscribers, but they better have a whole heck of a lot of new ones to make up for those existing players getting fed up and leaving.


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Karkais
04.20.2013 , 08:18 AM | #78
Just posting that I agree with the OP in that pvp is looking better. I am having fun at lvl 55 pvp, although the matches don't seem to pop up as often as <55 but thats ok.

I can never consider MMO pvp as esport, sorry. The idea sounds ludicrous to me due to latency. SWTOR pvp is just innocent fun to me.

I don't know about "general consensus" unless that means certain small but loud percentage of forum posters..
"What is a Sith? Over time, the beliefs have changed, but one constant has remained. The imposition of one's will on the force, on the environment surrounding one, on the galaxy itself." - Darth Wyyrlok III

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Phrase
04.20.2013 , 09:27 AM | #79
Quote: Originally Posted by Karkais View Post

I can never consider MMO pvp as esport, sorry...SWTOR pvp is just innocent fun to me.
Sig worthy quote right there.

Sixgun
Satele Shan

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amerciasmexican
04.20.2013 , 09:42 AM | #80
To bad pvp is still a gear grind, with just as much gear gap as before. PvE gear has been kicking PvP gear in the face. Its no longer who can spam WZ's all day and keep their sanity it's now who has the most free time to grind underworld gear+. I would grind WZ's more if the pvp gear actually had new cosmetics but its the EXACT same armor as the PvE sets just different colors? i think some people at Bioware/EA or whoever is in charge of designs to be replaced since they lack the basic creativity of a child

P.S.: it practically requires you to run in premade groups to stand a chance now