Operative/Scoundrel roll spam

equal? I didn't realize force leap had no cooldown, and you seem to have forgotten that from your list. Guess i know now that an operative player told me about my class, huh?

leap:

cons:

1. can only be used against enemies
2. has cooldown
3. can't be used on targets in cover
4. can't be used while rooted

l2r :>

l2r, the point is no cooldown on the lolroll is broken. In any event, your list is comparing apples and oranges because Force Leap is more an attack power than anything. You should be comparing guardian leap to the lolroll as both are defensive, escape abilities. Poor guardian leap doesn't match up quite as well, even from your biased comparison. Range is worse, for one thing.

I realize this probably belongs more in a general gameplay discussion, but I feel this tends to affect PvP more than other gameplay aspects.

In my opinion, the scoundrel/operative combat rolls need to have a cool down placed on them. Currently, in PvP, it's a bit ridiculous having these guys literally rolling all over the map in and out of range, from one objective to the next in ridiculously short times, the list goes on. How is it even fair to give them this sort of tool, when they already have some ridiculously high survivability in PvP? A healer op/scoundrel is nearly unkillable less the entire enemy team focuses on them. Solo I've held off 4 people with my scoundrel just spamming my emergency medpack, hovering around 30% and I just stay up.

"Well, not everybody plays the healer spec." While that's definitely true, it certainly doesn't seem to detract from the survivability and general annoyance these classes can cause, more so now with their spammable roll. Kiting them is essentially impossible, because even if you slow them, they're still capable of cleansing it and literally rolling up to you to DPS you. If you manage to get them focused, they can still cloak out and go recover somewhere before coming back in.

I think there should be at least a 5 second cool down on this ability to prevent it's "abuse". Hell, if a gunslinger/sniper has a 20 second CD on theirs, I see no reason a small cool down shouldn't be placed on Operatives/Scoundrels. A good scoundrel/operative might die once or twice, a great one will be unkillable.

As I stated before, before the QQers take hold of this topic, I play a scoundrel healer and can agree that this ability is a bit much with no CD.

lolroll isn't too bad, you can get to the nodes faster, but then you're basically permanently drained of energy when you get there. I lolrolled to the enemy node in cw one time, then opened up on the capper with hidden strike, then was 100% out of energy. so he was just on the ground and I didn't even have enough energy to stun him.

Fair tradeoff, not really much different from the mara Superpredation, oh wait maras aren't drained of all their resources when they activate predation.

Well they nerfed that. Only middle tree shien guardian and juggernauts get "unremitting" now. So its more like

Force Leap>*KNOCK BACK* ...slowly walk to the guy. Force Push> Force Leap **STUN**.

lol

Wasnt my list. Again, l2r.

I will refer you to another post I made earlier in this thread;
Make all gap closers cost lots of resources. For warriors, this would mean they have to build resources to charge/leap/intercede. Without 25% full resource pool, warriors have no gap closers. Sounds fair?