Operative/Scoundrel roll spam

They see me rollin
They hatin
Just shot first some kid for seven thousand thirty

It takes 1/4 of their energy per roll and they have 1 ability for energy regen.

Guard/Jugg have aoe snare, Sent/Maur have a multi target snare, Scoundrel/Oper have a snare, Sniper/Gunslinger have an aoe snare, Merc/Comm have snare, vanguard/powertech have snare, shadow/assassin have snare, Sorc/Sage have snare.......... hmmm seems like ever single class has access to a snare.... hmmmmmmmm

Like other classes can. The fact that they may be the fastest is irrelevant, as one class must be the fastest... I'm guessing you play a sorc right about now.

Dirty Kick/Debilitate and Flash Bang(aoe) very endless

To bad the shield doesn't last as long as the GCD

I just thought I would correct your perception.

This will be fun.

Also breaks all CC, goes for a much longer distance, and in certain specs, grants entrench + more CC immunity.

Cool head breaks stealth, so ~6 seconds where a scoundrel will be visible which can ruin some tactics. Cool Head is also a 2 minute cooldown. Two rolls is still well within 30 meters for a leap, closer if the scoundrel was slowed. The energy cost IS high. To say it's not means you really don't understand how Scoundrel energy regen works.Complete waste of a CC break if you're using it on a root or slow. Those can just be reapplied, and now you have no CC break when you get hard stunned.

Sages and Shadows already do this. And easier too with Sages being able to pull teammates. And their sprint is not slowed by the Huttball, while Scoundrel's roll is.

You're fighting an uphill battle, because your argument is essentially. "This is powerful, nerf it." I can make very similar claims for many other class abilities. A Jedi Knight for instance can leap to an enemy right after grabbing the ball, push that enemy across the fire pit, leap again, then leap to an ally that ran ahead, and still have CC immunity so they can just walk across the goal line. Now that's pretty overpowered, don't you think?

No, that's working as intended since it's been in the game as long as people can remember and it's what they are used to. Knights are supposed to run the ball and leap, sages are supposed to run the ball and pull, pts/vgs are supposed to pull enemies away from the goal line and into fire traps, assassins are supposed to knockback enemies into firetraps/the pit, and scoundrels are supposed to hate huttball because they are the person constantly getting leapt to, killed in fire traps, or knocked into the pit and have no gap closer to get back into position. That's the way it has always been and that's the way it should always be.

Yup, scoundrels/operatives have the worst moving heals ever (SARCASM DETECTED), it makes them such easy prey when they just roll and lol from the dps. Not a single one of the other abilities you mentioned are instantly reusable.

Good thing every class has a slow then. I love spamming the roll 3 times just to end up 18 meters away with 40% energy.

And what about a jugg/guardian? I don't have one so I don't know the specifics, but can't they leap > force push > leap > friendly leap, one after the other?

Not everyone wants to ONLY heal. Terrible argument.

People comparing scamper to skills that aren't spammable and are on cooldowns...

...please stop. Scamper is probably the most poorly implemented skill I have seen in any MMO and

clearly a failed copy of that panda skill from WoW like everything else in this game.

There is no reason in this game whatsoever that you need a spammable talent like that.

Maps are small, you're already playing lame stealth classes and every other class speed utility has a CD.

Now people spend 10 minutes chasing OPs in a circle.

OP class is officially the class for players that use training wheels.

Might as well call the skill speed hack.

Force Leap;

15 sec cooldown
Must leap to an opponent

Exfiltrate;

No cooldown
Any direction

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Yeah right. Might want to look at their scrapper/concealment tree and tell me where their mitigation is.

Want to make a case that only lethality/concealment should be able to go crazy with it? That might make some sense, since they are the softest target in the game.

I can kill a scoundrel/op in less then 5 seconds on my marauder and shadow (while being immune to all their attacks and CC).

If only they had an ability that completely screws over/counters "roll spam". Oh wait they DO, and it is on a class that had NO representation in ranked/competitive pvp. See Electro-net Merc/commando.

When I lead damage on my scoundrel/op? The entire battleground needs "training wheels", because I DOUBLE that output on my sniper, marauder and shadow.

Want to take away the roll or put a cooldown on it? Give me 25 percent mitigation out of stealth for 12 seconds (which I get on my infiltration shadow), 30 percent less damage from aoe (also get that) and mitigation/dmg talents which proc off my crits. Oh yeah and also make recuperate an instant heal (like shadow), and give me a 1.5 minute pvp trinket as opposed to 2, and my dodge should make me immune to CC as well.

Burst? It is the same on both classes, except the shadow/sin isn't tied to his opener, so yeah lower the cooldown on backblast as well to make it even.

The ONLY reason I still play my scoundrel is to make bad players rage with shotgun blasts to the head. My shadow will be geared first, because it is superior in every single way, except carrying a flag in huttball, and my shadow can do that pretty damn well...

I would also add that a op/scoundrel has 0 chance of beating a shadow/sin 1 v 1. If you lose that matchup? Delete your account.

So one class has stupid mitigation, higher burst out of stealth, is second best "speeder to nodes/capper", beats everything 1 v 1, and the other class gets a roll you want to take away.

Makes perfect sense. Logging in my scoundrel right now, and playing this song as my shotgun takes out all you crybabies.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sU_JBjLfXBo

Oh and in before some kid says "cloth armor? The shadow has a increased armor talent in infiltration, which puts them 2 percent behind a scoundrel/op A shadow specs into 6 percent mitigation from crits, and 2 all the time which puts them at 6 percent better then op/scoundrel BEFORE all the other mitigation (25 and 30, which is freakin 55 percent mitigation to aoe). Oh yeah that mitigation also blocks internal dmg.

If you even touch the roll for op/scoundrel? They better get all of the above and they can take shield probe and delete it, because it freakin sucks. Imagine the QQ then...