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Pistols
04.17.2013 , 03:56 PM | #1101
Quote: Originally Posted by Aetideus View Post
The developers made the bolster in PTS. Where should have remained.
I don't think anyone disagrees with this.

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MalDeChagas
04.17.2013 , 03:56 PM | #1102
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
We completely understand that the desire from everyone would be that WH/EWH was viable in both open world PvP and Warzones, but unfortunately that just was not a possibility in this case.

-eric
Or, the new bolster system could have been kept in development until it was fully tested and ready to deploy.

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stephenalandavie
04.17.2013 , 03:57 PM | #1103
It is acceptable but what about all the bugs with bolster still in play.

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sanchito
04.17.2013 , 03:58 PM | #1104
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
One of the first things we want to address are concerns about how our change has affected players in WH and EWH in the open world. The simple explanation is that due to the way our itemization works, we had to make the choice that WH gear would either be good in open world (and not viable in Warzones) or viable in Warzones (but lacked Expertise in open world situations). We decided that since a large majority of the PvP that occurs in our game and the place where players worked to receive the gear is Warzones, that we would side with Warzones overall.

We completely understand that the desire from everyone would be that WH/EWH was viable in both open world PvP and Warzones, but unfortunately that just was not a possibility in this case.

-eric
The elefant in the room is bolster in 55...it's just not working

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MotorCityMan
04.17.2013 , 04:01 PM | #1105
Quote: Originally Posted by HoloTweed View Post
Players wearing PvP gear totally overwhelming PvE players in the Open World environment who are doing PvE missions should never have been allowed in the first place.
Having to wear pvp gear on a pvp server while doing pve? What a fashion fax paux. Outragous. It's like wearing black to a wedding ! or bright colors before spring. The horror...

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Twin
04.17.2013 , 04:04 PM | #1106
Quote: Originally Posted by HoloTweed View Post
Actually, it's about time that Expertise was eliminated in the Open World altogether. Players wearing PvP gear totally overwhelming PvE players in the Open World environment who are doing PvE missions should never have been allowed in the first place.

Expertise should only work in WarZones. In the Open World, it should be a balanced playing field so everyone has a chance to enjoy the combat versus PvPers descending for a giggling gank-fest on players performing PvE quests in what is, basically, the PvE environment.

There should be PvP in the Open World - that has proven fun when appropriately geared players clash. Expertise gives a gravely unfair advantage (especially when much of the Open World PvP is exp-geared PvPers ganking players 10 - 20 levels below them).
So you are proposing that endgame PvP gear gets the same stats as endgame PvE gear then - or are you saying "It's about time PvE'rs gets an advantage over PvPers in...PvP"?
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stephenalandavie
04.17.2013 , 04:05 PM | #1107
And yes bolster needs to go at 55 it ruins gearing up

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Monterone
04.17.2013 , 04:17 PM | #1108
Quote: Originally Posted by HoloTweed View Post
Actually, it's about time that Expertise was eliminated in the Open World altogether. Players wearing PvP gear totally overwhelming PvE players in the Open World environment who are doing PvE missions should never have been allowed in the first place.

Expertise should only work in WarZones. In the Open World, it should be a balanced playing field so everyone has a chance to enjoy the combat versus PvPers descending for a giggling gank-fest on players performing PvE quests in what is, basically, the PvE environment.

There should be PvP in the Open World - that has proven fun when appropriately geared players clash. Expertise gives a gravely unfair advantage (especially when much of the Open World PvP is exp-geared PvPers ganking players 10 - 20 levels below them).
Ummm no... you should roll on a PvE server if you feel that way.
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EricMusco
04.17.2013 , 04:18 PM | #1109 Click here to go to the next staff post in this thread. Next  
The second issue we want to address is concerns over the balance between level 55 PvE and PvP gear. We have seen some reports from players around the forums and in this thread that they are seeing players wearing Underworld or Arkanian gear having higher stats under Bolster than people wearing Partisan or Conqueror.

After some investigation, it appears that this is true, but it is not intended. Although we always want to keep the PvP environment competitive even for players not wearing full PvP sets, Partisan and Conqueror should be performing better in Warzones than their PvE counterparts. We will be deploying a fix for this in 2.0.1 which will be coming out on Tuesday.

I know there is still a bit of confusion around the Bolster system, how it affects stats and Expertise and I am working on getting some more information on it. Sometime after 2.0.1 I am going to work with the combat team on getting a “mathy” post explaining a bit about Bolster and how it works which will hopefully work to clear up some confusion. As you can imagine, it is a pretty complex system.

I hope that alleviates some of your concerns with the issue of PvE v PvP gearing and thank you all for your feedback.

-eric

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Monterone
04.17.2013 , 04:20 PM | #1110
Why can't you emergency patch it?

A week is a long time to have a broken and exploitable system in warzones.
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