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lordkhouri
04.16.2013 , 10:04 PM | #1
Removing and re-adding augments to your gear in a war zone completely screws with bolster and gives you ridiculously high stats.

I took out a few just to test it and ended up up with almost 40k health in a warzone (up from 34k), and that was just from taking out 4 augments.

Obviously this is expensive, but it needs to be fixed none the less.
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lordkhouri
04.16.2013 , 10:10 PM | #2
BW is implementing a stupid system and they need to abandon bolster. The only requirement for PvP should be PvP gear. No more bolster!!! Useless systems for people who don't even PvP.
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Jeeses
04.16.2013 , 10:23 PM | #3
bolster is here to stay by the looks of it. It is a good system, which needs to be played around with.

Pvp should be about how good a player is at their role, not how pretty their pixels are.
Bolster is making this happen, however it is definitely a work in progress.

PvE > PvP needs to be address urgently.

They clearly weren't ready at release of 2.0, however 16/4 patch made a improvement to the system so looks like its on its way up. Give it some time before you cry that its broken and demand it be removed.

How do you think anything would ever get better if devs didn't try something and then play with it over time....? Ever heard of trial and error?

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Jeeses
04.16.2013 , 10:26 PM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by Jeeses View Post
bolster is here to stay by the looks of it. It is a good system, which needs to be played around with.

Pvp should be about how good a player is at their role, not how pretty their pixels are.
Bolster is making this happen, however it is definitely a work in progress.

PvE > PvP needs to be address urgently.

They clearly weren't ready at release of 2.0, however 16/4 patch made a improvement to the system so looks like its on its way up. Give it some time before you cry that its broken and demand it be removed.

How do you think anything would ever get better if devs didn't try something and then play with it over time....? Ever heard of trial and error?

And before you go on about how thats what the PTR is for etc etc and how your a paid sub blah blah blah:

Swtor has a relatively small player base, nothing compared to say WoW (omg i mentioned it.) We can't expect Devs to look at every single possibility in a PTR because the number of people on them would be so minimal in comparison to a PTR on a game of a much larger scale. So unfortunately because we are a smaller game things will always be pushed into live faster and dealt with if/when errors occur.

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gryhmr
04.16.2013 , 10:27 PM | #5
Bolster is absolute garbage.
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Jeeses
04.16.2013 , 10:28 PM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by gryhmr View Post
Bolster is absolute garbage.

Go home troll, you're drunk

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LegendaryQuan
04.16.2013 , 10:39 PM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Jeeses View Post
Go home troll, you're drunk
hes not a troll. he speaks the truth. it takes a couple of days to get full partisan gear. their is no need for bolster at 55. it has destroyed the game. people who are pvping without partisan gear are obviously not interested in pvping very much or they would have the gear. getting rolled for a couple of days after hitting 55 is not a big deal. they should remove bolster from endgame because right now it is a mess and any changes they do is just going to keep making it worse.

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lordkhouri
04.16.2013 , 10:53 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Jeeses View Post
Go home troll, you're drunk
Ahahah actually, I think you need to give that guy a break.
Bolster is kinda garbage.
-PvE > PvP
-Inflated Stats
-No requirement for any PvP gear at all
-Too easy to exploit
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Jeeses
04.16.2013 , 11:01 PM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by LegendaryQuan View Post
hes not a troll. he speaks the truth. it takes a couple of days to get full partisan gear. their is no need for bolster at 55. it has destroyed the game. people who are pvping without partisan gear are obviously not interested in pvping very much or they would have the gear. getting rolled for a couple of days after hitting 55 is not a big deal. they should remove bolster from endgame because right now it is a mess and any changes they do is just going to keep making it worse.


No, he is very much a troll. He gave a few word long response and didn't back his argument.
Example: I'm on my scoundrel and i post in /1 "scoundrel is the only true dps class."
Offer no reasoning behind my example and just watch /1 explode, its very amusing.

Plain and simple its trolling, but that's not why I'm commenting.

Bolster IS a step forward, you narrow minded people can't seem to get your head around it. Once they iron out the issues it will result in a smaller gear gap between those who come in, and those who are well geared.

Lets say that by the end of May, all those who are PvP focused are in full partisan gear, minimum. Whilst most are in at least half are up to the next gear bracket again, and those who are dedicated are in 100%, and min/maxed etc.

Pre 2.0 they just handed out a set of gear to everybody so they would be at least somewhat competitive.
Now they will simple boost bolster to say, Partisan, or maybe the stats equivalent of 80% Partisan.

This way they don't have to hand out gear, so those who fought hard for it feel it wasn't wasted, and later down the track PvP will still be competitive because those who are new will be able to put up a fight.

The biggest issue with Bolster is PvE>PvP there is a solution to that, its just not come to light quite yet. Once its fixed then bolster will be in a good place. It's only because bolster is new and there's new gear and people are only just getting their hands on PvP stuff that's causing the issues.

If they had released this bolster just before 2.0, and everybody was in full WH, minimum. They could have bolstered stats to the equivalent of battlemaster, rather than just hand the gear to us in a box when we ding. The result would have been the same.


It's just a cluster**** because there is far too much happening at once.

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Sentanta
04.16.2013 , 11:11 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by Jeeses View Post
Pvp should be about how good a player is at their role, not how pretty their pixels are. Er.... What???

They clearly weren't ready at release of 2.0. And whose fault is this?? - The PTS is for testing this kind of stuff and as a paying subscriber should I do the testing for them on live servers? Give me a break!

Ever heard of trial and error? Unfortunately as I have already mentioned above - with EA/BW there seems to be no trial and only error after error after error
They have messed up big time with PVP from the start - imo its not getting better its getting worse!
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