2.0 Hardmode Flashpoints are not worth the payout.

Here's what I don't understand: "don't get anything out of"

Are you in FULL Arkanian / Black Market? No? Then you're going to get something out of it. Even if you don't win a single drop, you still get Elite comms.

If you ARE in full Arkanian, and you're still wiping all the time, then you simply need to improve as a player, and coordinate better in the group. If you're wiping on HM 55 FPs, you're going to be wiping on HM 55 Ops as well. Getting better at one will help get better at the other.

The whole, "It's too hard" mentality really bugs me. A year ago, end-game was too hard for me too. This didn't drive me to the forums to whinge about it, it drove me to become a better player. Don't you get a sense of accomplishment when you figure out how to defeat X encounter that was previously difficult?

1. Bosses drops BLUE gear really? And dont hold your breath but a whooping 2 elite tokens . what is the point. If i can craft the level of gear given is too low.

2. Boss difficulty levels are set too high, perhaps they were set for pts when we all had full gear but no one does now, for example the wookie in cademimu spawns so many death trolls so fast it is near impossible to beat. the heat beam in hammer station cause so many wipes everyone quit. Both times i got que no we did not make it past the first boss.

3. Repair cost are tooo high to make the 10k payout at the end worth anything. The last run caused 5 wipes at a cost of 23k per wipe. so to do this flashpoint and get 0 gear from it i spent over 100k in repairs.

4. The overall payout for the vs the cost of gear per tokens if the gear goes from 80-140 tokens per item the payout is just not worth the repair bills or time.

i love flashpoints but if they cause more stress then fun i do not see any reason to do them at all. Doing a raid has a far better payout with less cost in repairs.

1. Bosses drops BLUE gear really? And dont hold your breath but a whooping 2 elite tokens . what is the point. If i can craft the level of gear given is too low.

2. Boss difficulty levels are set too high, perhaps they were set for pts when we all had full gear but no one does now, for example the wookie in cademimu spawns so many death trolls so fast it is near impossible to beat. the heat beam in hammer station cause so many wipes everyone quit. Both times i got que no we did not make it past the first boss.

3. Repair cost are tooo high to make the 10k payout at the end worth anything. The last run caused 5 wipes at a cost of 23k per wipe. so to do this flashpoint and get 0 gear from it i spent over 100k in repairs.

4. The overall payout for the vs the cost of gear per tokens if the gear goes from 80-140 tokens per item the payout is just not worth the repair bills or time.

i love flashpoints but if they cause more stress then fun i do not see any reason to do them at all. Doing a raid has a far better payout with less cost in repairs.

At the end of the day though, the repair costs of dying is not worth it. Regardless if people get wiped or not. The way this game is now is like your losing more money then you are gaining in turn pushing away the casual players who dont really give a **** about being the strongest player in the universe. They just want to have fun with other players in the Star Wars universe.

At the end of the day though, the repair costs of dying is not worth it. Regardless if people get wiped or not. The way this game is now is like your losing more money then you are gaining in turn pushing away the casual players who dont really give a **** about being the strongest player in the universe. They just want to have fun with other players in the Star Wars universe.

By Basic Gear, I literally mean the gear that one buys with Basic commendations, in case that was unclear, not the gear acquired while leveling through Makeb.

wow so many troll responses,
so lets sum up the troll responses, its too easy for me, everyone but me sucks, every boss drops awsome gear, and repair costs are not what i have said they are. Well i am not a hardcore super no life mmo troll. so if you dont think things are too hard and the payouts are awsome great for you. Now for the normal player that has a life. repair costs are high, the bosses dropping blue level 53 items are not at all acceptable. The fact that you get 1 purple drop and it is NOT a token makes these feel like a waste of effort and time. People are doing these in black hole gear because like so many special people here belive they are too good for any difficulty level so they could never be the problem. yet tanks are paying the price in repairs due to over agro poor healing and undergeared players. i do not blame the undergeared players because that is why you do flashpoints is to get better gear. I love the its a hardmode statements maybe you have not noticed THEY DID NOT ADD A SINGLE NON HARDMODE LEVEL 55 FLASHPOINT.

Overall many here are missing the point IT IS NOT FUN to spend hours on flashpoints and come out of this with a loss. yes you get 2 whole tokens per boss, but the gear cost 80-140 per item. For those who have math issues that means i have to run these many many many times for gear. But if it is not FUN then what is the motivation to do it?

BTW thank you to all the possitive feedback, At least most agree drops should be better and tokens and repair costs are high.