2.0 Hardmode Flashpoints are not worth the payout.

OK Ill put in my 2 cents.

I do not consider myself pro - or elitist, but I really don't have any problems with the hardmodes either. I have not done any as a guild run, only pugs thus far, and i was in 61/63 gear when I hit 55 and have done all my 55 hm's as healer.

The whole thing with the new hardmodes is the new mechanics, that is all. Athiss Last boss can be healer intensive if they dont know how to cleanse, the same with the first boss in Hammer. most of the bonus bosses are just tank and spank, although the Mando Raiders one does need kiting or the group will wipe.

P.s They are called 'hardmodes' for a reason. Yet I do agree, the reward at the end could be slightly higher.

P.p.s A lot of guilds, including mine were running tfb/Sav sm pre 55 you, You should try it yourself, manually ofc. again Mechanics is important.

Yea that hammer station robot cost us 3 healers last try they just gave up, after 8 total wipes and 150k in repair costs we all gave up. My overall point is they are not fun at the current level settings, and the rewards are horrible. I though you did hardmodes to get gear for raids but maybe things have changed and you just go right into raids instead. i am the last one of my friends still playing swtor. everyone else i know quit due to lack of fun. this 2.0 update with caps on everything and nightmare mode hardmodes will not bring any of them back.

There are always bad groups. I remember when all the original hard modes (not talking about Kaon and Lost Island) wiped groups all the time and had much less rewards than what they upgraded to. A very green bunch of pugs wearing Tionese or worse will probably have issues. So far I've found them to be fairly easy, wearing my level 61-63 gear that I'm slowly upgrading. I do think the orange gear with blue mod drops are a little disappointing, though. You need to do the bonus bosses to get a better chance at cool stuff.

The problem here is people not knowing mechanics. MMO's are not catered to hardcore professional gamers, if anything the opposite. Anyone that thinks this just has no business playing in the first place. There are many things that can be going wrong, but I'll say this since I've seen it brought a few times. The first boss in hammer station uses a beam and it NEEDS to be CLEANSED at around 4 or 5 stacks. If this doesn't happen you will almost always wipe. This stuff isn't hard, you just need to know what you are doing.

Basic gear vastly outstrip the gear requirements for HM 55s.If you still find yourself unable to complete the FPs, simply wait until the rest of the community is geared enough to carry you

The other problem is actually the nerf to equipment from level ups 51-55, it makes it so we're a lot more fragile in some respects than we used to be.

I can tank Athis and if I respec to tank, I'm able to tank Mandalorian Raiders.

I have a hard time tanking Cadmandeu (or crashmandeu as I like to call it) (even the first boss).

Granted I prefer playing a dps, but we have very few players that actually tank anymore (I suspect they left out of frustration), I really don't like the tank tree, I prefer the Vigilence Tree.

By Basic Gear, I literally mean the gear that one buys with Basic commendations, in case that was unclear, not the gear acquired while leveling through Makeb.

The debuff the droid puts on with the heat beam needs to be cleansed.

i see that the changes in healing needs seem to be the cause for these wipes, somewhat. i have also been in groups that still have black hole gear on i dont mean some parts i mean full black hole. As a tank its beyond frustrating and spending 2 hours and hundreds of thousands of credits on repairs for a single flashpoint that does not give you squat but a few tokens per run and i need 100s for each part. so that means i have to do this flashpoints hundreds of times to gear up. In no way is that worth the effort.

btw what is the solution for the dam wookie adds ?

Just shows me exactly how people are when they respond on the forums. People who want to yell out get basic comm's must also know that is requires so many of them per piece of gear. So why go backwards to go forwards?