Why rise of the Hutt Cartel is a failure

Seriously... if you're complaining about how the things you do in an MMO don't have any effect on the game, then this must be your first time "at the rodeo". You might as well complain, "I already killed that boss, why did he spawn again?" MMO's are worlds that everyone who plays needs to experience equally. So, while I enjoyed the storyline of the Sith Warrior, vastly, I also understand that every other max level Sith Warrior did the same things I did and earned the covetous position that's singular... just like me.

So, what's your complaint exactly? What did BW surgically remove from MMO's? /Random? /Readycheck? There's a lot of things that weren't in the game before the game was released because they obviously had to cut corners at some point. I don't agree with the stuff they rushed, but that's a different discussion and I don't believe they left things out against MMO standard practice except for mods, but they already explained they didn't like mods.

The story in the MMO was a nice little twist to the leveling experience. It's the only reason I enjoyed leveling so much... so much so that this is my first MMO where I have leveled 5 other toons to 50. I have never done that in any other MMO because the grind feels even harder with a wall of text that I won't take the time to read so I don't care about the lore and story.

Still... the endgame for ToR could use some improvement. S&M is sort of in the right direction, but they still have work to do and that's another discussion as well.

. How did that plan work out for them again?

Well maybe because most of the Bioware fanbase wanted it and what if they are the majority of the subscribers? How many MMO tanked because they went after WOW people? And how many MMOs succeeded by doing what you mention above?

if this game was a pure MMO without story, voice over etc,, all hardcore mmo guys complain, it would be dead by now and took its place in the history of 100 other games people played for 2 months and left.

what happened to the bioware of old

BW was swallowed up by EA, who makes the decisions on what gets implemented.

BW is no longer BW, it is EA, and that's why you don't see the epic win anymore.

Just being honest.

I'll take Misleading Thread Titles for $200, Alex.

I'm not trying to fanboy here, but the title of this thread is nonsense when taken in conjuntion with the actual OP's argument. They made more SWTOR. The OP feels that it is a failure because they gave us more SWTOR, instead of more KOTOR. I mean, okay, I guess. The MMO expansion did not make the MMO play like the single-player RPG that it already didn't play like.

Hell, while we're at it, let me explain how RotHC is a massive failure. It didn't transform SWTOR into TIE Fighter, a completely different game! I am surprised by this series of events, for reasons that are unclear! Also, I am shocked and alarmed to learn that MMO's are grindy! I somehow did not notice that in my first 50 levels. Bio-poop, FIX THIS NAO!!!11eleven