Luke Skywalker vs Superman. Who wins?

It kinda is... practically every villain who wants some (and Batman, and Iron Man, and... everyone) seems to be able to find the stuff.

I'm not sure where this whole "speed of light" nonsense comes from, but we rarely see Superman flying that fast. Even if he can, if we're getting into the realm of absurd hyperbole, Luke has been described as moving faster than it's possible to track. During his duel with reborn Palp (part of the Dark Empire drivel, I know, but we are talking about superman as well) they were both fighting so fast there appeared to be dozens of lightsabers.

... Which would work fine until Luke pulled out the kryptonite and was like "Hey, wait... you're only superpowered because this stuff isn't near you, right?" At which point superman stops being super and Luke continues being a Jedi Master.

With a lightsaber. And Force Lightning. And precognition. And the Force.

At the end of the day, Superman is just a strong brute who wins by out-punching everything because he literally can't die or be harmed... unless they have kryptonite, in which case he falls over and screams for Batman to save him.

Were Superman real, someone would probably kill him a kryptonite slug from a sniper rifle, just to shut him up.

Should note, Kryptonite actually takes time to affect Superman...you can't just show it and all of a sudden he is weakened by it. Or at least depending on which incarnation we are using here, but anyway this battle is rather...dumb dunno why it was brought up again.

Batman has a crap ton because he's batman, he can afford to track the stuff down and lock it up for safe keeping and Iron Man?? Really? When has Iron Man EVER had kryptonite? Unless your joking, in which case Iron Man is in a different universe. Ya know Marvel not DC.

Anyway just having kryptonite isn't an insta-win button to kill Supes, in one comic he beat a guy literally MADE of kryptonite.

When being timed Superman flew from Earth to the Sun (approx. distance 93,000,00 miles) and back in less then 2 minutes, which means he would have to be moving at a rate of 5.9 Billion miles per hour. According to Batman he can travel at least 17 billion kilometers per hour, and nobody argues with Batman.

In many comics Supes can move so fast he has after images, meaning it looks like there are dozens of him moving around when he fights. =/

Yup Supes would just stand there while he whipped it out right? Not move so there's some distance or fly into the air and nuke him with heat vision or anything.

You don't know much about Superman do you? He does more then just punch everything and he has plenty of weaknesses and fights many foes who can do him harm, Luke just doesn't match any of them.

Supes having super hearing would hear the trigger of the sniper rifle and having super speed would just dodge the bullet before it even left the barrel of the gun.

This is pretty stupid. But hey It's fun to read.

Wolf whats up been a long time since I been in the forums well when people posted without been subbed

I don't think is dumb actually, Superman is a Super hero at the peak of his universe as well as Luke, just Superman is better in every aspect (personality, attributes, story, enemies, etc) unless you think is dumb to discuss things like Abeloth, Sideous ....maybe its dumb but its fun right

At that point Luke could just wait for physics to catch up with Superman and beat the ever-loving crap out of him for being such a dunce and trying to violate the speed of light. Probably that smack down would consist of confiscating Supe's mass since he clearly has no respect for it, and then subjecting him to the forces of acceleration which he forgot about while flying around like an idiot. He'd probably end up on the wrong side of black hole, rueing the day his clueless writers pissed off the laws of nature.

He has plenty of weaknesses... besides Kryptonite? And being a sissy? Because that pretty much sums up Superman's weaknesses. Also, if we're still dealing with the realm of blatantly idiotic abilities, Luke defeated a Force God. As in, a being that was powerful enough to be considered a deity.

I guess you've never fired a rifle since around... 1905, since pretty much all longarm rounds these days (unless designed to be lower velocity) are supersonic. So it would hit Superman before he could hear the trigger, or even the discharge of the weapon.

Alternatively, just push Lois Lane off a cliff and wait for him to predictably fly over to save her, then shoot him, dropping them both to their deaths. He can't fly super fast once he grabs her because doing so would rip her fragile body apart and bounce her brain off the inside of her skull when he accelerated. Although... Superman is enough of an idiot that he probably doesn't know that, so he might have a hilarious Heroic Breakdown after he kills her with brain trauma...

and then shoot him with the Kryptonite rifle, just for good measure.

He's protected from physics because he's freakin Superman and its a comic book, in the DC universe there's the Speed Force where the Flash, fastest guy in the DC universe, gets his powers and protects him from his own speed, it works for Supes too. Why your even bothering with physics between two fictional characters with powers and abilities which don't exist is beyond me.

Yes he does, his invulnerability is negated by magic which can hurt him just like it would hurt anyone else. Which is just one. Superman fights god's all the time Darkseid (the guy from that video I linked earlier) who is a god. He's teamed up with some gods in the DC universe as well.

I refer to my speed of light replies earlier, he would dodge the friggin thing. Or he would just hear the gunmen's breathing or heartbeat alerting him of his presence. What do you have against supes dude? =/

This is why i think Superman is the lamest superhero of all time. Too gosh darn powerful with too few weakness, there's no room for me to relate. Personally, i'm not really a big DC fan anyway, Marvel always had cooler stories, heros, and waaaaay cooler villians (The Penguin vs Venom, for instance).

But Luke would lose i'm sure. Superman's always got an answer for everything minus a green space rock...boring stuff.

Like I've said before he has many weaknesses and he isn't invincible. He's one of the most powerful heroes but he also fights many beings just as powerful or more powerful then he is all the time so I don't see how that's an issue. I'm not sure if you've read any Superman comics or anything (I'm going to assume you don't since you said you like Marvel more and aren't really into DC, which I don't have a problem with.) but I don't see how you can relate to Superman or anyone for that matter if you don't really know anything about them.

My dad got me into comics at a young age because he was a collector when he was a kid. He actually had a copy of Superman #1 and Spiderman #1 (by that i mean the DC and Marvel first appearances of both) before his house burnt down as a kid.

I'm not familiar with the newer incarnations of Superman but i am pretty familiar with the original concept. Here's the thing: Spiderman can be shot and killed, now he has spider sense, incredible agility, and other ways to not get shot but the threat is still there. Superman can survive NUCLEAR BOMBS and can PUNCH REALITY and change it...that's just a bit much for me. The only bad guys that could ever get him in trouble would either have to be a straight up god or they have to track down a rock from space - i just find that lame, what's the point of even showing him foiling robberies or criminals if they never had a chance to start with? If it helps any, i do feel the same way about Green Lantern...that ring is too powerful.