Who are these guys? (PvP loud mouths)

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I feel stuff like this justifies my rage in warzones.

thats why we need personal rating also in normal wzs and new matchmaking system or autoswap during wz to avoid this...

No it doesn't. There's absolutely nothing that justifies being mean to people, who are new to the game or don't yet know how to handle their class right or something like that. It's understandable, maybe forgivable, but never justified.

Most of the time you can easily figure out where your opponents are going, true. But still, I feel people who are node guarding should call. Watching guard noders Hp bars isn't too much to ask for, but tbh it's much easier for the node guarder giving a quick call. It's not like he's stuffed with other things to do while standing there.

When pugging I've learned to always blame myself for putting even minimal faith into teammates. No real sense in getting upset with random people when by now I know 3 out of 4 times there's gonna be facepalm material in a WZ.

I do snap a snarly remark sometimes, when we're say fighting at CW grass and the situation tips to our favor, yet people are tunnel visioning to the max to get the kills. I tend to start for the other node when it becomes obvious we've got it under control and nothing irks me more when I have to be one to turn around and go back cos ofc. god forbit the 5 guys that secured the node against that 1 last survivor use some common sense and leave some defenders in place.

Other than that I slap focus target on guards at the node I'm not guarding myself and if I cant reach them in the time it takes for the incoming they never called to kill them and cap it's my fault for not predicting enemy teams movement in the first place or seeing his energy/health bar fluctuate in time.


Having said all that, I've lost any moral hangover over on occasion just parking my toon somewhere, plonking him on his rear end, tabbing out to check my email and wait out the resounding defeat to pick up the point and the daily. I don't expect pugs to hold their own, I think I'm entitled to not give it my all in lost cause from the get go rounds where you got 5 people in pve/recruit gear in the team. Bless you lads, nobody started out decked or pro, but yea, I'm beyond tutoring and holding hands of every newbie that graces a WZ. I'll take it on the chin but give it 5min before I queue up again to hopefully avoid the same group.

No, because when told nicely what they need to do they instead decide half of them will camp the single node we had from the very start of the game and get angry at anyone that tells them that isn't wise, and two of them spent the entire match screwing around in the middle of no where. What's worse is that even with four of them at grass, they still managed to lose it to two players. A team doesn't average 30k damage in a full length match just by being new (most of them were in their 30s and 40s too). They have to give zero effort in playing the game to hit that low. If you aren't going to try you shouldn't be playing a team based game.

This stuff happens way too often. Not too long ago i had a CW just like this where i had 300k damage and no one else on my team had more than 75k. When you do over 4 times as much damage as teh next best DPS on your team, you know your team is bad and you are not the problem. And i have a hard time believing that all 7 other people were healers.

So the queue times are even longer? No, thanks I'd rather have a fast loss because I had few undergeared idiots on my team than to sit in 15min queue.

Well if you would have bothered to quote my entire sentence, it would have been obvious from context that the definition of "trying hard" in my example, was someone who really wants to be good, but as of yet has not attained that label.

While your "all or nothing" philosophy about the word "trying" is mildly interesting, it doesn't change the fact that there are degrees to the effort one can apply to a given endeavor. Presumably those degrees also reflect someone's emotional investment, and likelihood of wigging out on a group of strangers. My point was that while there are degrees to effort, there is no particular degree that ever "earns" you the right to behave badly.

People keep citing examples of the complete failures people are capable of in a WZ, they are frustrating, there is no debating that. I am not suggesting that anyone experiencing those things should NOT feel frustrated.

The point I am trying to drive home, is that NO ONE CARES that you are frustrated. And no one SHOULD care, that you are frustrated. Get over yourself. You are nothing, nobody (we all are, for as long as we are strangers to one another). The rest of the world has no responsibility to take notice of your emotions, no matter how little self control you have regarding your need to express them.

Secure people deal with adversity, while maintaining self control.

Insecure and frankly selfish people must share through acting out, the burden of any adversity they encounter.

There's 4 kinds of people:

The kind that are too scared/meek to rage.

The kind that are too secure to ever feel the need to rage.

The kind that need to spray the world with their insecurity.

The kind that while secure enough to remain quiet, are too self-important to do so.

Pick one I guess. Cause one thing you will NEVER be, is the dude with any formal authority, or any earned respect, from the general player base of the SWTOR game.

(Any point at which I address someone as "you" is not necessarily directed just at the person to whom I replied)

I'd add one type of people, people who feel insecure but own enough self-control to keep their mouth shut. Because if I'm on really, really bad mood, I can get annoyed by actions of my teammates, and feel like shouting to them, but it wouldn't be polite, so I tell myself not to do it. (Though, if I would just release all my frustration at others, I'd usually rage at flashpoints, not warzones. xD)