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Preorder and early access confusion

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Preorder and early access confusion

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Blackardin
04.05.2013 , 06:38 AM | #21
Quote: Originally Posted by KhealThar View Post
That's pretty dumb logic. They blindly pre-ordered something that they had no information on and thus should be rewarded? We shouldn't be condoning this kind of behaviour in companies. It's like the whole "season passes" that keep coming out in games and they don't even release much content after everyone bought them.

A smart intelligent person would wait until their is actual information on a product before throwing their money at it.
....and you are calling him dumb?

I can agree with your assessment, but not in regard to intelligence, perhaps an astute individual would wait for information....but reading your contention regarding the mechanics of the pre-order made me feel as if I was insane. ;p
May the Schwartz be with you....

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astrobearx
04.05.2013 , 06:42 AM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by LordCJK View Post
Of course, you shouldn't care. But Bioware should, they gets money for it and ppl without ''early access'' losing 5 days of their subscription. Not many players will accept it.
Yes, he's tried before and after 7th Jan. The bank issues were only about this order, i can't tell you much details since it wasn't me but you really think people should switch bank because of SWTOR... I have nothing to tell you mate
if they have issues in purchasing things, then yes they should. hell, last year i change banks due to a issue i was having with my bank account, but whatever. and if you (and other people) are seriously considering to QQ over this because

1. you chose to wait

2. you waited to the last day to preorder and couldn't


then all i got to say is....so? you already bought the dlc, so BW got your money already and the cartel market will recoup your sub (and anyone else sub) lost within a day.

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Blackardin
04.05.2013 , 06:42 AM | #23
Quote: Originally Posted by LordCJK View Post
Of course, you shouldn't care. But Bioware should, they gets money for it and ppl without ''early access'' losing 5 days of their subscribtion. Not many players will accept it.
People without early access are not losing five days of their subscription. THEY DIDN'T ORDER IT, so there is no monetary loss to them.

Honestly, I'm starting to worry about humanity......
May the Schwartz be with you....

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Sweeet
04.05.2013 , 06:44 AM | #24
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackardin View Post
People without early access are not losing five days of their subscription. THEY DIDN'T ORDER IT, so there is no monetary loss to them.

Honestly, I'm starting to worry about humanity......
I started worrying as soon as I had access to the internet... We're doomed, doomed I tell you!

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gabigool
04.05.2013 , 06:48 AM | #25
I am just curious when the Jan 7 date was first designated as the cutoff. Obviously not in the text quoted on the first page as the release date was just announced a few weeks ago.

Personally, I preordered late, and will not have early access but am not really losing sleep over it.

My opinion is that I certainly don't recall anything in late Dec or early Jan that clearly shouted out "If you preorder before January 7, you will have 5 days of early access". I was under the impression - as someone who only casually glances at these forums and doesn't prioritize reading fine print in emails about games I play - that preorder = early access.

When someone mentioned to me a few weeks ago that the cut off date was January 7 I was surprised. I don't think it's a particularly big deal and will just use that time to finish gearing out my comps and queuing up some quests. I'll probably still get to 55 before some members of my raid teams.

My point is that it seems to me that something like this (the 1/7 cutoff date) could have been plastered all over the launcher for 3-4 weeks instead of the cartel drivel. I know a lot of people that preordered as soon as the option came available, I don't know anyone that preordered early specifically in response to wanting to beat a known 1/7 cutoff date.

WRT the OP, yes, I do agree a lot of folks are going to be pissed as they are under the false impression. Also legit CS requests are going to drag with all the nubs calling pretending they're sure they ordered 1/6.

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Arlon_Nabarlly
04.05.2013 , 06:57 AM | #26
So here's my 2 cents on the subject.

I think that Bioware did the Jan 7th date as a test of one or two things:
1. See how many die hard players they have that will buy stuff no matter what.
2. They intentionally wanted to limit the number of people on Makeb the first week so they could do internal testing for load balancing (how many people before creating another planet instance for example).

As far as calling people stupid for not buying it, here's my thoughts on this as someone who did pre-order in time for early access:
1. Based on my current play history of playing consistently since launch even when things got sketchy prior to the merges, it was highly unlikely I'd be unsubbed by spring.
2. One of my favorite things is raiding with my guild, in order to do the new end game raids I was going to have buy the xpac to get the new level cap, why not get it early.
3. It only cost $10, I blow more than that on lunch most days.

Based on what I listed above pre-ordering early was a no braining, I pre-ordered the first day and haven't regretted it.

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LordCJK
04.05.2013 , 06:57 AM | #27
Quote: Originally Posted by astrobearx View Post
if they have issues in purchasing things, then yes they should. hell, last year i change banks due to a issue i was having with my bank account, but whatever. and if you (and other people) are seriously considering to QQ over this because

1. you chose to wait

2. you waited to the last day to preorder and couldn't
At first, it wasn't me. Then we have thing that the guy i'm talking about HAVEN'T WAITED to the last day mate.



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then all i got to say is....so? you already bought the dlc, so BW got your money already and the cartel market will recoup your sub (and anyone else sub) lost within a day.
I haven't canceled my sub( and don't want atm ) But i'm planning to play this game for a while, so it's not my last month. If BW lost such subscriber( many players really care about BW's attitude ) it won't be nice business.
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackardin View Post
People without early access are not losing five days of their subscription. THEY DIDN'T ORDER IT, so there is no monetary loss to them.

Honestly, I'm starting to worry about humanity......
They did. They still pre-ordered it but after 7th January. The same money thou. You are simply messing us with people who have never paid a cent for expansion. I'm not saying ''give it for free''.

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Blackardin
04.05.2013 , 07:11 AM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by LordCJK View Post

They did. They still pre-ordered it but after 7th January. The same money thou. You are simply messing us with people who have never paid a cent for expansion. I'm not saying ''give it for free''.
You are now falling prey to the facebook phenom....that which leads one to believe that they are entitled to everything just because its them, no different then the belief (as we often see here) that everyone is interested in said individuals personal commentary on.....everything. LOL

You did not order before the early access deadline. That order, producing revenue for them well prior to the release of the expansion, was rewarded by granting early access to the game. You did not do that, you are not entitled to that which those individuals who did.

You are now seeking that, with no concern for those who did, effectively seeking to invalidate their contractual deal with the company because you "want" and feel entitled. In short, you fulfilled no part of the deal on your end, but insist on the same reward as those that did with no concern except your own and how it will work to your advantage.

Honestly, from my standpoint I'm truly amazed that you would even suggest such with a straight face.
May the Schwartz be with you....

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Blackardin
04.05.2013 , 07:13 AM | #29
Quote: Originally Posted by Sweeet View Post
I started worrying as soon as I had access to the internet... We're doomed, doomed I tell you!
True that. LOL
May the Schwartz be with you....

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LordCJK
04.05.2013 , 07:15 AM | #30
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackardin View Post
You are now falling prey to the facebook phenom....that which leads one to believe that they are entitled to everything just because its them, no different then the belief (as we often see here) that everyone is interested in said individuals personal commentary on.....everything. LOL

You did not order before the early access deadline. That order, producing revenue for them well prior to the release of the expansion, was rewarded by granting early access to the game. You did not do that, you are not entitled to that which those individuals who did.

You are now seeking that, with no concern for those who did, effectively seeking to invalidate their contractual deal with the company because you "want" and feel entitled. In short, you fulfilled no part of the deal on your end, but insist on the same reward as those that did with no concern except your own and how it will work to your advantage.

Honestly, from my standpoint I'm truly amazed that you would even suggest such with a straight face.
I understand your point but u don't understand mine. I'm not saying that's BW somehow fooled me or whatever . I'm saying that the their idea is bad. That's all.