The BattleZone! Round 1 Match 03: Lord Vitiate vs. Darth Plagueis

@Baniboybling ,The jedi knight protagonist defeated the Voice,not the original.And he is also one of the most powerful jedi ever.

@Baniboybling ,The jedi knight protagonist defeated the Voice,not the original.And he is also one of the most powerful jedi ever.

Actually, only Tol Braga and the Hero of Tython managed to resist the initial storm the other 3 were incapacitated. And even so, it still slowed down them both immensely to where Vitiate could throw a burst of lightning with no issue. Again, Vitiate wasnt trying to kill any of the jedi strike team, only subdue and either enslave them with mind control, or break them to his cause.

1. Without force bellow a change up would be necessary as he still needs to move his hands back to actually project a force wave. There is a possibility that he could move his hands back to where he is still maintaining his tutamis, however this can also put him at an even GREATER risk and heres why.
- Remember in the Revan novel, while Revan was containing Vitiate's lightning even when he was holding it and it wasnt leaking out, the sheer heat from Vitiate's lightning was melting Revan's mask into his face. The same could happen to Plagueis if held too long or it got too close to his face, and if that respirator gets damaged then Plagueis loses.

2. Remember, both Plagueis and Vitiate like to play god, meaning they both believe that they are gods and that there is nothing in the universe more powerful then they are. I see this as Plagueis's downfall, since he believes that he cannot be defeated even in a force battle, which he would prefer to wage anyway. Since Plagueis believes himself to be god, and that there is no way that he can be defeated, he sees lightning from Vitiate as simply something he can catch and absorb, which in his mind there is absolutely no way that he is going to be overwhelmed by it since he is god.

With this line of thinking, he proceeds to use tutamis to catch Vitiate's lightning. When he does this one of 3 things can happen.
- The heat from Vitiate's lightning even if he absorbs it all could melt his transpirator, thus killing him regardless if the need to change up is there or if he can use force bellow
- If he does change up, he could still be susceptible to lightning which could damage his transpirator same result
- He can use force bellow, which he may not even be able to use due to his transpirator in the 1st place

I just dont see Plagueis getting out of an initial lightning confrontation which would happen due to both Vitiate's and Plagueis's belief that they are all powerful.

Plagueis is no way ,i mean *no way*, even close to a guy that consumed a planet and that much sith lords of which at least 100 of them are real powerful.And Sidious who's feats after the movies is under construction (even if he is still alive) is,but that is another topic best left for another thread.

Also i imagine consuming other beings and the force out of them is something not that old by the time he did it which means he is a dark side pioneer in that regard.And he is not a wound in force like Nihilus which means you must have great will focus and power to screw an entire planet with that much sith,even if were easily exploited because of the situation they are in and they lend part of their power to Vitiate..

Rule of Two in our context means only that the next sith is more powerful than his Master.Just because there are 2 ,and only 2 beings use the dark side,doesn't mean they are by default godlike compared to the ancient sith.Power not being deluded is not said fully in a context of force ability.Which means -yea- you overestimate Plagueis.

This is not the case with the Rule of Two, which takes the best of the best and makes them better, then those who come later use the knowledge that their predecessors have collected to become even better. Each Sith is more powerful than the next, by default Plagueis is more powerful than Bane.[/COLOR]

That feat was not his own, it was the combined feat of 8000 Sith

All that is true, but you made it sound like you believe that the Dark Side personally is gonna grand them more power by default just because there are fewer sith, which is absurd.
Also much knowledge was screwed by Darth Gravid,which means that the accumulation of power and force secrets was not in a steady progression and there was a major setback.And it was caused by one of the integral flaws of the Rule of Two at that.

Unless you are a wound in the force you can't consume a planet just like that.
This is immaterial in the first place.All that matters is the power he got after the ritual.

Also there is no way Plagueis can do such a thing without a ritual and help.As i said the things Vitiate do through a ritual,can not be done without it.Plagueis would need a ritual too,if he tries them.

If they do hit the transpirator, then yes, I believe the mask would be damaged.

[COLOR=#CC9e42] Powerful bursts of energy can break Vitiate's defenses