Selecting need for loot

How much did the PLAYER contribute to the FP run? That PLAYER is the one who in the opinion of "social convention" cannot to roll need on that drop that would be an upgrade for his companion, because you want it for your character. Would you even have a chance to get the upgrade for your character without the efforts of that other PLAYER?

That upgrade for your character may benefit you all the time and everyone YOU group with, but the person that wasn't given the chance to roll need for his companion, will likely see NO benefit from it, because he will likely never be grouped with you again.

It would seem that "social convention" trumps the need for communication if some people in this thread are to be believed. To expect someone on the "right" side of this debate, with the power of "social convention" and vote to kick at his beck and call, to actually take the less than 15 seconds to type "need for character only" in party chat is beyond unreasonable. After all, they have "social convention" on their side.

I read every post in this whole damn thread. Where's my cookie?

In regards to the topic, it seems that we are all in agreement on one thing: communication about loot in a group is a good thing.

The vast majority agree that there is a social convention of need for character only, greed for companion or selling, pass if not interested. If you're gonna break social convention, the obligation is on you to notify the group. If you don't ask first, wait until everyone else has rolled greed and then roll need, you deserve a warning and then a kick from the group if you do it again. As far as punishment goes, that fits the crime, imo. The people who get called out on fleet should be reserved for people who, like the op, have been advised of convention, understand that when they need after everyone else has greeded they are stealing loot from others who may "need" it as much as they do, and then do it anyway.

We aren't going to convince the people who disagree with this convention, but it *is* nice to see so many people who still follow some courtesy in groups. In wow, that sentiment died a long time ago (except in guild groups).

But rata, they will get a benefit when something else drops that they get to roll need on due to social convention. So they have to gear up their companion some other way, but they benefit from this system too, because they don't have to take their chances when an upgrade for their character drops.

And what exactly is physically or psychically preventing you from taking the 'less than 15 seconds' to type 'can I need for my companion'?

The benefit is communal, not individual. You may never see that particular person again, but whenever you group with someone else who has up to date gear, because they won that gear as opposed to it going to someone else's companion, you benefit from their better performance as a result.

The trooper hitting need although he already has the chestpiece anyway?



There would've been more "communal benefit" if people showed up properly geared, which isn't that hard in leveling content. In which case, nobody would have any viable "need" for any of the drops other than their cosmetics. Plenty places to get the mods, you're slacking if you don't have them yet in at least blue quality.

Sooo once again:
Either the bosses in leveling flashpoints should simply drop one piece of loot for everybody, give everybody the same piece for all I care, or the mods and shells should simply drop seperately.

If gearing up is so easy in normal leveling content...why aren't you gearing your companion the same way? why do you need the FP drops for them?

When there's a social convention like this in place, the people who abide by it don't have to initiate such communication. The burden is on the people who want to do something different.

It's like waiting in line. People who are okay with waiting in line shouldn't have to tell everyone who comes along, "Hey, this is the line. Your position is back there." Instead, a person who has some pressing need to cut ahead should initiate the communication on whether it would be okay to do so.

If you don't ask, and you just cut in line, the people who are waiting have every right to be impolite to you when they're informing you of the social convention. And if you still refuse to go to the back of the line, you can expect to be thrown out of the store/theater/bank/whatever, because the staff won't appreciate a troublemaker, either.

OMG this thread is still popping up at the top? This horse as been beaten and is long dead.

It is simple:
People who give in to the Darkside select need for companions

Poeple who are at one with the Force only select need if they can use it as an upgrade to their main toon.

(Only bumping this because it was like third down on the list in General but please let it die)

Except when you hit Greed, you're saying "I deserve this loot drop just as much as the rest of you"

When you hit Need, you're saying "I deserve this loot drop MORE than the rest of you"