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Consolidated Post: APAC/Oceanic Server Concerns

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Consolidated Post: APAC/Oceanic Server Concerns
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PseudoScience
03.26.2013 , 11:22 PM | #3961
The trade-off EA has given us is population vs performance. People's loyalties are with both and that's why we want a merger!

Planetside 2 is F2P and has localised servers! I don't think the APAC servers are running at a loss but they are taking an opportunity to sacrifice the quality of our performance (ping/latency) to cost cut and increase revenues.
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iheartnyc
03.26.2013 , 11:22 PM | #3962
Quote: Originally Posted by BovineDeath View Post
A lot of us have played on US servers, if if you do anything that requires quick reactions, you're already 1/3 - 1/5 of a second behind the reaction time an American player will have. Plus increased lag spikes and Harbinger's regular problems.

We're not "Chicken Littles", we just aren't gullible fanboys with rosé coloured glasses who welcome an obvious degradation in service quality.
Not quite.

Look up the definition of a "milisecond", and equate the differential between what US players are getting (~30-60) and what most of us would get (~140-200). That's a difference of ~110-140 miliseconds.

That is an increase in lag of .11 - .14 seconds for most of APAC players. Let's not exaggerate here. And yeah, I know some of you have bad internet connections or are located in geographic regions that will compound this greatly with an extra ~50-100 milisecond of lage. But again, nowhere close to "1/3 - 1/5 of a second."

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grallmate
03.26.2013 , 11:23 PM | #3963
Quote: Originally Posted by -IceHawk- View Post
Honestly?
My IQ is 150, I am the first graduate to earn an MA from my institution in the last decade with a perfect 4.0, have numerous institutional-level award winning pieces of research, literally earned every single academic honor offered within my department and university, and have earned a fully funded ride to finish out my Doctorate while I work on publishing independent research.

So, I would infer that I am slightly above the curve of "stupid."

Thanks for asking though, but, this is relevant to the discussion how?
I'm freaking Einstein reincarnated with Sir Isaac Newton's brain stitched in for good measure. See, we can all make unreasonable claims on the internet. FWIW, 150 isn't that great. Mine's 154 and I've been an Undergrad for 7 years because I get bored and change degrees frequently.

But quite frankly, no one here really cares what you have to say. Most of APAC just want to whine somewhere about the decision and are looking for support, not logic. For someone so 'smart' you really don't understand that much. Reminds me of my numerous Comp. Science Lecturers that couldn't get an Overhead Projector working.

Most of the outrage here is that Bioware asked us APAC players what we wanted and the general consensus was a server merge to Dalborra (where I call home) which has a sustainable population but could always benefit from the extra population. The benefit most people wanted (especially the PvPers) was the maintain the low ping to which we have become accustomed to. Secondary benefits included the ability to maintain our identity as the APAC server and the lower population causing fewer name clashes.

Now the first thing I did when I heard about this was log onto the Harbinger and try to get my names. I got all my Grall* names below but was unable to get any of the others. I advised all my Guildies to do the same of which most could get 1 or 2 but often not their primary name. I understand that when the merger actually happens we may still get to keep some of the names and we will lose some depending on a number of factors.

We then began to level to 10 so we could reserve the guild names. During that time I found the general play lag to be bearable. I found a lot more missed GCDs (from maybe 1 in 100 to about 5 in a hundred) but otherwise it seemed fairly playable. I know that once we have moved and are working on "progression level" content that might change and I dread to think of the PvPers in my guild. Interrupting with a 20-40ms ping is vastly easier than interrupting with a 200-300ms ping. This will be amplified by the increased value of Alacrity which will lower the 'interrupt window'.

Anyway, what it really comes down to is BW asked us what we wanted and gave us something completely different. If you go to an Ice Cream Parlour and ask for Chocolate, you'd be annoyed if they give you Vanilla because its more cost effective. Same deal here.
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jackdaley
03.26.2013 , 11:24 PM | #3964
Quote: Originally Posted by Nommaz View Post
I do...
Its my identity in game how people know me, a rep I have built.
Sorry you fail to understand that
Well maybe you should....IDK go outside perhaps?

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DaftVaduhhh
03.26.2013 , 11:24 PM | #3965
Thank you for agreeing with my underlying logic, I honestly felt I was talking to someone who was towing the academic/corporate line.

Quote: Originally Posted by -IceHawk- View Post
Honestly?
My IQ is 150, I am the first graduate to earn an MA from my institution in the last decade with a perfect 4.0, have numerous institutional-level award winning pieces of research, literally earned every single academic honor offered within my department and university, and have earned a fully funded ride to finish out my Doctorate while I work on publishing independent research.

So, I would infer that I am slightly above the curve of "stupid."

Thanks for asking though, but, this is relevant to the discussion how?
I was inferring that you are, in fact, not that stupid. Hubris aside, you have demonstrated that.

I also happen to think that EA would be the kind of company to kick up a stink about a small retreat from a market place, likely to generate some local political discourse so they can get some incentives to come in and faff about the place. That's what big companies do when it won't make headlines the world over or they think they have a sizeable backing.

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Elysiah
03.26.2013 , 11:24 PM | #3966
Quote: Originally Posted by Nommaz View Post
I do...
Its my identity in game how people know me, a rep I have built.
Sorry you fail to understand that
Hahaha you must certainly feel accomplished. Losing your in game name is probably the least significant thing about this whole server merger.

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Thornsbane
03.26.2013 , 11:27 PM | #3967
I have a fast internet speed and quit wow because my main was a rogue and could not backstab moving targets. It looked like I was behind them on my pc, but I was not on the server due to lag.

These small things make it impossible to be competitive on any sort of decent level.

Why are the same people posting over and over trying to say having lag is fine? It clearly is not. Trolls I guess.

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Elysiah
03.26.2013 , 11:27 PM | #3968
Quote: Originally Posted by Punchy View Post
I've read most of your replies.

I agree, you really couldn't have put it better.

Not even close.
Thanks friend! i understand you're angry so i won't take offense
Im just happy to soon be on a server with players.

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Punchy
03.26.2013 , 11:28 PM | #3969
Quote: Originally Posted by jackdaley View Post
Well maybe you should....IDK go outside perhaps?
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grallmate
03.26.2013 , 11:29 PM | #3970
I must say I find it quite amusing that most of the posters defending the merger are not affected by it while most of the players angered over the announcement are in fact affected by it. Really says something.
The Kae-Sare Legacy - The Harbinger
<Vindication> <Retribution>

Gralleh Grall'eh Khyar
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