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Palar

03.25.2013 , 10:33 PM \| #3501
Quote: Originally Posted by jackdaley Well i've played on the Harbinger and Queues pop in under 1 min PVP and Group finder Much better than 30 mins + Well, as long as you're happy - me? I do (did) that with my guild... fun while it lasted, too, but we had to be screwed over for puggers.

DiamondDove

03.25.2013 , 10:33 PM \| #3502
All of the European server populations are light at the moment ..... will they be the next to go?

WasteGate

03.25.2013 , 10:39 PM \| #3503
Some stats from my connection in NSW via Optus Premium (100Mb) cable. 165ms to The Harbinger is OK in my books. Not as great as 12ms to Master Dar'Nala but it's still faster than my tests to WoW (Blackrock) servers which is 210ms. Just wish I could transfer PvP to PvE server as I have joined a new guild on The Harbinger. APAC SERVER -pathping to Master Dar'Nala Quote: Tracing route to 175.45.88.217 over a maximum of 30 hops 0 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx local pc 1 yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy local router 2 10.85.0.1 3 198.142.160.49 4 119.225.208.177 5 * * * Computing statistics for 100 seconds... Source to Here This Node/Link Hop RTT Lost/Sent = Pct Lost/Sent = Pct Address 0 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx 0/ 100 = 0% \| 1 0ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy 0/ 100 = 0% \| 2 11ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 10.85.0.1 0/ 100 = 0% \| 3 11ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 198.142.160.49 0/ 100 = 0% \| 4 12ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 119.225.208.177 Trace complete. USA SERVER -pathping to The Harbinger Quote: Tracing route to 159.153.69.10 over a maximum of 30 hops 0 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx local pc 1 yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy local router 2 10.85.0.1 3 198.142.160.53 4 211.29.126.89 5 203.208.192.21 6 203.208.171.33 7 64.125.13.5 8 209.66.92.102 9 159.153.68.42 10 159.153.69.10 Computing statistics for 250 seconds... Source to Here This Node/Link Hop RTT Lost/Sent = Pct Lost/Sent = Pct Address 0 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx 0/ 100 = 0% \| 1 0ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% yyy.yyy.yyy.yyy 0/ 100 = 0% \| 2 10ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 10.85.0.1 0/ 100 = 0% \| 3 11ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 198.142.160.53 0/ 100 = 0% \| 4 10ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 211.29.126.89 0/ 100 = 0% \| 5 167ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 203.208.192.21 0/ 100 = 0% \| 6 171ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 203.208.171.33 0/ 100 = 0% \| 7 170ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 64.125.13.5 0/ 100 = 0% \| 8 165ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 209.66.92.102 0/ 100 = 0% \| 9 169ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 159.153.68.42 0/ 100 = 0% \| 10 165ms 0/ 100 = 0% 0/ 100 = 0% 159.153.69.10 Trace complete.
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Dropfall

03.25.2013 , 10:43 PM \| #3504
I just took a quick count of all the Imp players I could on Dalborra, give or take a few dozen for WZs, in ships, and other places I didnt search and the Imp side alone is around 280+ players. Add in the Pub side and you have nearly 600 players on Dalborra alone, and we're several hours off peak time. There is no excuse to say combining all 3 APAC servers would be unpopulated and unviable from a gaming perspective.

soneil

03.25.2013 , 10:46 PM \| #3505
Quote: Originally Posted by WasteGate Some stats from my connection in NSW via Optus Premium (100Mb) cable. 165ms to The Harbinger is OK in my books. Not as great as 12ms to Master Dar'Nala but it's still faster than my tests to WoW (Blackrock) servers which is 210ms. Just wish I could transfer PvP to PvE server as I have joined a new guild on The Harbinger. APAC SERVER -pathping to Master Dar'Nala USA SERVER -pathping to The Harbinger Similar to my experience. I really haven't found that ping times to US servers are that much different. As as you pointed out it was also bigger for me on WOW (which I should point out never had servers hosted in australia which was never a big issue).
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Palar

03.25.2013 , 10:46 PM \| #3506
Quote: Originally Posted by Dropfall I just took a quick count of all the Imp players I could on Dalborra, give or take a few dozen for WZs, in ships, and other places I didnt search and the Imp side alone is around 280+ players. Add in the Pub side and you have nearly 600 players on Dalborra alone, and we're several hours off peak time. There is no excuse to say combining all 3 APAC servers would be unpopulated and unviable from a gaming perspective. "There's PvPers... even though OWPvP can't function in the game... and those RPers that we don't support with anything..." Some bean-counter slashed the server farm, even if they're trying to spin that it's for our benefit.

PseudoScience

03.25.2013 , 10:47 PM \| #3507
Guys it's about cost cutting in a game that they wanted to be a cash cow but they turned it into a dog. They were never listening to the community from the start, our future was already decided in a boardroom months ago!
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Icykill_

03.25.2013 , 10:58 PM \| #3508
Quote: Originally Posted by soneil Gav daragon never even gets close to that. Most of the time it's more like 20-30 on fleet and that's during busier times. If you want to do any group content you pretty much have to schedule it. Good luck ever getting sub 50 group finder to pop. So if we all merged into 1 APAC server and Bio made the following changes... then there would be enough people to solve the problem that everyone on the other servers seems to have a problem with... on Dalbora we are content with the way things are THERE is a solution and it is SO EASY I can't believe you aren't going to implement it. - RP players play the game so they can talk to each other in the game and "live" the character... Why not just create a different chat channel for them so that they can continue to play this way... it might even allow them to try PVP if they so choose. - PVP players play the game to play other players. This can still happen on a PVE server because IF you are a PVP player you CAN flag yourself for PVP. This would allow other PVPer's to see they want to play as a PVPer You could ALSO open up some more map area's on the Planets that are dedicated to PVP, also having a Duelling area on the Fleet would be good. AND they could also have a separate chat channel. - PVE players can play both PVE, PVP and RP if they so choose. Consolidating the 3 APAC servers into 1 PVE server STILL ALLOWS ALL 3 GAME STYLES with little or no change in the community game play. This is by far, more fair to everyone who plays the game. Sure there maybe some small changes, but they can be worked around.

Elysiah

03.25.2013 , 11:01 PM \| #3509
Quote: Originally Posted by soneil I'm seeing a lot of people here trying to speak on behalf of everyone else here. Firstly I'm seeing people from dalbora saying there's no population problems. Try playing on gav daragon if that's the case and see what it's like to be in group finder for hours at a time during peak times without a pop. For the people complaining about ping times - Like many people I played on a US server for several months before apac servers even existed and I never remember having a big problem with ping. Only reason I moved to the APAC servers when that option presented itself was so I could play on a server with people in the same timezone. Perhaps ping an issue is if you're hardcore pvp but then again hardcore pvpers have a habit of forgetting that the game doesn't revolve around pvp. I had to laugh at the people saying they'd go back to wow because of ping. Wow as far as I'm aware has never had servers physically hosted in australia. Their apac servers are hosted overseas so the ping is no different from their US servers. And considering how much that game has sucked since cataclysm I'm not interested in going back there. My only problem with this announcement is how long it's taken. Promises about action began in the middle of last year which is about how long ago the NA servers were merged to fix their population issues. Should have just done ours back then rather than the whole 'wait and see how FTP pans out'. I wish we had a choice of servers to go to. There's more than on RP server for instance and I'd rather go to the one that the people on my old server ended up on rather than just being shifted on to a particular one. Pretty much^

Satelerevan

03.25.2013 , 11:05 PM \| #3510
Eric, and Bioware Team. I know this decision did not come down easily but as its probably meant for the best. Within the benefit of doubt, as you are going ahead with this idea there is a request that you guys should consider. As the community has been hurt by this. Yes, I can see it but truth to be told whenever I do play on the Harbinger server its very good and all activity wise. In doing so, I'd like to recommend you should look at the idea of granting us a refund bundle pack with cartel coins invested and what not to make up for it. But this is an idea I had in mind. I do know that for people who would have the same legacy name on both servers we would loose it. So I ask you to give us something to compensate for that.
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