Selecting need for loot

Then why am I not allowed to obtain gear for a companion? What is so taboo about obtaining gear for a companion?

Its not about how the person uses it - its about how the person OBTAINS it!!

When you click need for your comp - knowing full well that the social convention is need for your character only; then you are STEALING the item. You are denying your other group members a fair chance at gaining the item.

If you clicked need after asking "Can I take this item for my comp?' and people said "sure" then that is perfectly fine.

The point is when you click Need - You automatically deny everyone who clicked Greed the chance to get the item So if you click need when others thought you would chose greed (since you dont need that loot for your own char) you are denying them their fair chance getting the item.

The pro "need whenever i please" people keep trying to spin this as saying that people are telling them they have no right to the loot if they cant use it. that is completely false. They have a right to an equal chance to the loot. not a right to ninja-grab it.

One of the areas we disagree is when it comes to denying a player the option to roll need for his companion if someone wants it for their character. To me it is every bit as selfish for a player to tell someone that they cannot have a chance to win that aim chest piece with defense because the vanguard DPS might want to tank, or that I cannot have a chance to win that cunning chest piece for risha because the gunslinger wants it.

You may not agree with me, but that is the way I see it. In both situations, one player is being given a higher chance to profit than another when all contributed. In the case of the player who bucks "social convention" his need roll trumps all the greed rolls of those players who choose to follow "social convention". In the case of the character before the companion, the character's need roll trumps the roll of the player who wants it for his companion as that player is only permitted to roll greed.

Yes it is. So there for HE should have informed the group that he would be rolling on ANYTHING he could use for his companion. Lack of communication is the number one problem. You can't BLAME the other members of the group and NOT blame the OP. Defending his stance is one thing. Defending the OPs lack on no communicating is saying its ok to act as you will and not expect the rest of the group to not become upset.

He is at fault for not speaking up how he intends to roll. Its the groups fault for not explaining the loot rules it wished to use. So if your going to blame the group for NOT explaining the loot rules you have to blame the OP for not speaking up about how he rolls loots.

Your failure is failing to communicate what you were going to do in the group. You should have told the group upfront beforehand not after you did it.

That is exactly what people are being told. A scoundrel healer and vanguard DPS are in a group. A defense chest piece with aim drops. The vanguard wants it and rolls need. Are you going to tell me that the group isn't going to tell the scoundrel he has no right to roll need since his CHARACTER uses cunning?

you are completely able to obtain gear for your companion. People do it all the time and no one has a problem with it...

However,
a team consisting of IA,BH,SI,SW
The group as a whole adheres to the social norm rule of "greed if it isn't an upgrade for your character."
If a Strength item drops and the SW does not need it for his character, Everyone will hit greed.
If a Willpower item drops and the SI does not need it for his character, Everyone will hit greed.
If a cunning item drops and the IA does not need it for his character, Everyone will hit greed.
If an Aim item drops and the BH does not need it for his character, Everyone will hit greed.
This is established by the rule the party is adhering to.

So when the Strength item drops and the SW has no need for it Everyone rolls greed, but if the IA rolls need, and especially last. He knows without a doubt he will get that Item. Every single one of those classes has a strength based companion. and every single one of them may want that gear for their companion. but since the group rule said greed for companions, they did, and so were cheated out of that item by the one person who used a false pretense to get a 100% chance at loot. This pisses people off and kicks happen.

However if the Strength item drops and the SW has no need for it Everyone rolls greed, but the IA says "I really need that for my tank companion. Can I roll need?" There would be no problem at all.

It's not about what you use the gear for. It's about how you obtain the gear.

You are incorrect in your assumptions. I hope you feel foolish for making baseless accusations of the guy who hits "pass" on all the loot.

Then why am I not allowed to obtain gear for a companion? What is so taboo about obtaining gear for a companion?

You are incorrect in your assumptions. I hope you feel foolish for making baseless accusations of the guy who hits "pass" on all the loot.