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Arkerus
03.18.2013 , 10:45 AM | #121
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
I agree.

This is probably this weeks rant-dejour.

Last week it was the Cartel Market again, getting beaten like anwanted pet, most recently over faux-hysteria about faux-rep being faux-P2W. The week before that it was the faux-rage at....at.... heh, I can't remember. That's how significant this kind of complaining is actually....nobody remembers past the prior week.... it's like the cable news cycles I guess.
God, isn't that the truth. These forums are exactly like the 24 hours news cycle. Hey! Here's some BS that no one really cares about but I feel important so here it is anyway.
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BaronV
03.18.2013 , 10:46 AM | #122
well i tried it on my level 20 Imp Agent... didnt work at all

Couldnt pick up the quests

Tried killing trash mobs - got 285 XP per lobel killed.

Doesnt sound like much at all...
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selios
03.18.2013 , 10:46 AM | #123
Quote: Originally Posted by Selethar View Post

1.) There will be a glut of level 50s who will be able to out farm me and my alts for resources on lower level worlds since they will be invulnerable at the lower levels. They will have to grind their skills up.

2.) Equipment prices for 50 gear will skyrocket due to demand. While I have a decent amount of credits, I am not rich in this game.

3.) There will be a huge influx of players on the level 50 FPs that will not have figured out how their toons work. I am not saying that I am an elite player but having someone who powerleveled a tank or healer try to learn their rotations/skills in a 50 hard mode isn't going to end well.

4.) Related to #2 - Inflation from the influx of 50's being able to grind all dailies and have larger credit pools to spend.
FuulishOne hit most of the points but it's early and I can't help myself.

1 and 3...Using the official game metrics given to you by Bioware, how many of the players in this "glut" of 50's are new players and how many are alts you were already in competition with for resources? How many of this "glut" in FP's are new and how many are alts that know the fights? What caused the new players to not learn the basics while leveling in an Ops group? Cause an Ops group is just like a FP group only more people in the group.

2 and 4...How did players first acquire lvl 50 gear? Did the gear fairy pass it out or did players have to do the FP's and Ops to get the gear? Does the gear fairy still pass out gear or do players have to do FP's and Ops in order to get gear if they can't/don't buy it? If a player doesn't have the credits to buy Op's armorings/mods/etc what are they going to have to do to get the gear? How much at the current prices, prices that btw have dropped by almost half since the xpac is just around the corner, does and FULL set of BiS armorings/mods/enhancements/barrels cost? How long, hours in a day/days in a week/weeks in a month/etc, would a player have to run dailies to acquire that many credits? Feel free to add in up to 11 alts. Also feel free to add in the time to gear the alts too. If players are spending credits from dailies on gear they could get in Ops and it's a MASSIVE "glut" of 50's doing this, is it inflation or is it supply and demand at work?

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Elear
03.18.2013 , 11:06 AM | #124
Quote: Originally Posted by Kubernetic View Post
AND DON'T FORGET:

Let me just be a right rotten bastard and say that it's a PVP zone, at least on the PVP servers. If you don't like them leveling up, get on your alternate faction toons and kill them all. They can't level up very quickly when they're dead.
All those 8-12k characters with 0 expertise? This is perfect definition of target rich environment.

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Savej
03.18.2013 , 11:10 AM | #125
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
What? Not everyone is a roleplayer wanting to sit through all that. I'll still go back and do the class quests, but I'll do them back-to-back and enjoy them 100x's more than splitting them up like the current alternative is. Call it cheap if you want, but I don't enjoy the leveling the same way you seem to.

And I disagree with you. MMO design 101 should allow for alternative leveling processes, not repeating the same quests ad nausem.
This has nothing to do with me wanting to rp - where are you getting your bs from? MMOs with optional leveling paths are great. Swtor has several - more is fine. But when one path is 5 or 6x faster than the others then no one is going to do the others other than the diehards. And the diehards will be lonely and, at best, pitied by the other people they might run into. I have seen this happen in several other games - it does not end well.

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Rafaman
03.18.2013 , 11:16 AM | #126
Quote: Originally Posted by BaronV View Post
well i tried it on my level 20 Imp Agent... didnt work at all

Couldnt pick up the quests

Tried killing trash mobs - got 285 XP per lobel killed.

Doesnt sound like much at all...
Yea.. when I first tried it I felt this way too. But then I realized the boon was not in trash mobs. Use an xp boost to make sure you are getting the most you can in terms of xp and then go hunting elites. They pay out handsomely at 3k to 4k a pop. And as previously mentioned killing the pylon guardians in a big group is a huge boost at what... 14k to 16k a pop. And while you are in a group killing guardians you take out any other mobs near the pylon area as they respawn quite regularly. It is insane how much xp you can rack up.

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BobaScott
03.18.2013 , 11:20 AM | #127
Quote: Originally Posted by Rafaman View Post
Yea.. when I first tried it I felt this way too. But then I realized the boon was not in trash mobs. Use an xp boost to make sure you are getting the most you can in terms of xp and then go hunting elites. They pay out handsomely at 3k to 4k a pop. And as previously mentioned killing the pylon guardians in a big group is a huge boost at what... 14k to 16k a pop. And while you are in a group killing guardians you take out any other mobs near the pylon area as they respawn quite regularly. It is insane how much xp you can rack up.
Not just the guardians. The groups get someone around 45 or up to "press the button" to call up the gold elites in between the guardians. Once they finish the mission, they just reset it over and over. The group I tried this with was generating ungodly amounts of xp per minute. When I went from 45 to 50 it took a while because of the amount of xp needed, but when I brought in a level 25 I went to 30 in an hour and change.

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Heezdedjim
03.18.2013 , 11:33 AM | #128
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
Heck some MMO companies even give veteran players automatic level dings as a perk to get them to come back and pay to play some more.
Yep. The only thing about the whole "exploit" that really hurts the game is that Bioware isn't making money off of it. People obviously want power leveling, and if they can find some way to get it, they will. If there is going to be a way, then it should be a way that makes the company money (i.e., sell power up items for mucho CC on the Cartel Market to let you get to 50 with a single click).

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elperzon
03.18.2013 , 11:34 AM | #129
If you don't like all these people power leveling to 50 then do something about it (in game preferably).

But what can I do to an ops group of 24 people?!?!?!
Well if you have some of these then 24 can turn to 4-8 pretty quickly
  • Orbital Strike - dealing 2082 elemental damage over 9 seconds to all enemies within 8 meters of the targeted area.
  • Legacy Orbital Strike - Calls in support from orbiting warships, dealing elemental damage over 9 seconds to all enemies within 8 meters of the targeted area. Can only be used during a Heroic Moment.
  • Legacy Lightning Storm - Calls down a Force storm over the target area, dealing energy damage over 6 seconds to all targets within 8 meters. Can only be used during a Heroic Moment.
  • Legacy Flame Thrower - Torches everything in a 10-meter cone with a flamethrower, dealing elemental damage over the duration. Can only be used during a Heroic Moment.
  • Legacy Force Sweep - Strikes up to 5 enemies within 5 meters with the Force, dealing kinetic damage. Can only be used during a Heroic Moment.

Special Note:
Ok so against 24 people you will most likely fall since you will be focus fired quickly. Not a problem. Pick up the quest [PvP] Charging the Pylon. Collect an orb from a Gree Energy Condensers. For all those who have completed this quest, you will most likely know what happens to you if you die while carrying one of these. If you don't then watch the video posted.

Ok so your not an agent or an altoholic, but you know 1 person who is. Pair up, jump in there and distract while your buddy demolishes waves of lowbies. And if you think this is unfair, they are bolstered to 50 fighting level 50 mobs in a pvp zone. I prefer to do it with my operative/scoundrel so I can infiltrate/smuggle to get close, cast aoe, restealth and reposition, cast aoe again. And as a heal spec i can essentially ensure I die when I'm best positioned. Works best with 2 agents/smugglers.

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Frostbyt
03.18.2013 , 12:46 PM | #130
Quote: Originally Posted by BaronV View Post
well i tried it on my level 20 Imp Agent... didnt work at all

Couldnt pick up the quests

Tried killing trash mobs - got 285 XP per lobel killed.

Doesnt sound like much at all...
I guess you missed step 3 in OP.
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