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Display Name Only Log In - Update 2 - Coming April 2, 2013

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Display Name Only Log In - Update 2 - Coming April 2, 2013
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03.18.2013 , 10:28 AM | #1 Click here to go to the next staff post in this thread. Next  

*** Some text changes below to indicate finalized wording used on the website and dates ***

On April 2nd, we are changing some aspects of our Authentication system. In our first notification of the most visible of the changes on March 5th (http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=5954106) we were still waiting on the last few background systems to be confirmed as ready. Now that they are ready, today's notification also includes those changes as well.

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On April 2nd, the following changes are going live:
  1. Display Name only login
  2. One-Time Password (via email) replacing Security Questions and Answers during Authentication
  3. Self-service for Forgot my Display Name
  4. Self-service for Lost my Security Key
  5. Self-service for Remove my Security Key
  6. Self-service for Move my Security Key

As a result of the original announcement of the initial overall change, there were a lot of questions raised. I'm going to try and give as much detail as I can here to try and answer any questions you might otherwise have, and that way we can focus on anything missed.

Here are some of the questions I expect might get asked. Accordingly I'm going to let one of my ducks do the asking so I can make a first go at answering them...

Quote: Originally Posted by MrYellowDuck
Why can't we use our email address? It's awesome! Quack! All the best companies use email address as username!
Lots of companies do use email address as the username. Lots don't. Both approaches have risks as well as rewards. One of the key risks for using email address is that an attacker who gets a valid email address and password will then know for certain that the account is associated with the website (or game!). For SWTOR this does not mean that the attacker could then take over an account, but it would give them the knowledge of who to craft a phishing attack against and have a higher rate of success in gaining access to information such as Answers to Security Questions. Without the link to email address, they also won't know the needed information in order to target the email account itself for a take-over in order to gain access to SWTOR and anything else linked to that email account.

This change will remove the ability to link (based on knowledge of the correct password) to your SWTOR account.

Even today if an attacker gets the right password they will not be able to gain access to your account, and with this change they will not be able to figure out which email address to send a phishing attack at, or which email account to try and take over. This allows us to place more trust in the ownership of the email account as being validation that we are (electronically) talking to the owner of the account.

Quote: Originally Posted by MrYellowDuck
Using Display Name is insane! I will be hacked! *ruffle feathers* You have given the bad guys my username! Half the battle is now lost! I'm 50% less secure!
OK, that wasn't a question. Lets just presume you are actually asking if using the publicly visible Display Name increases the chance you will be hacked...

We put in other controls before the launch of the game during 2011 such as the existing Security Questions and Answers system in order to protect your account even if an attacker managed to get the correct username and password. That security control aspect is not going away (although the 'remember' part is for the website and game launcher). In reality we are making it harder for an attacker, and giving you more control on the security of your account.

Lets look at the different pieces needed to successfully log in today:
  1. Display Name or Email Address
  2. Password
  3. Security Key or Authorized Location
  4. Non-Authorized Location via Security Question and Answer

Then lets look at the different pieces needed to successfully log in from April 2nd onwards:
  1. Display Name
  2. Password
  3. Security Key or Authorized Location
    1. Non-Authorized Location via One-Time Password (via email)
    2. Access to your Email Account

From the get-go, we have never considered the username to be 'hidden' or 'secret'. It never factored into our security model as something to secure, as we have worked on the basis that the attacker already knows it. This is also why we have not provided a self-service system for Security Key's as while the email address is easy (for an attacker) to associate with a SWTOR account. We have had to presume they will phish or attack the email account itself. De-linking the email account means that an attacker who knows the username has no knowledge of who to phish or attack. This means they continue to be unable to take over your account.

There are hundreds of millions of known username/password data rows available on the Internet. Well over 100 million unique email addresses. Most of these compromised details use email address as the username... It is this fact that dictates that attackers will know the username for at least some accounts regardless of any secrecy we may try to implement. You can check your own email address at http://pwnedlist.com/ for instance as one of the posts on the previous thread indicated.

So no, we have not given away 50% of the security. Half the battle is not lost. You should not care that anybody else knows your username. You should instead think they may have it already.

That said, you should care about your password, both on SWTOR as well as on your email account. It is especially important to use a unique password on your email account if nowhere else. I would recommend looking at a two-factor solution for your email account and will give the 2-Step authentication feature on GMail as an example. Google 2-Step today

Quote: Originally Posted by MrYellowDuck
I don't want my Display Name to be public! I disagree with everything you are saying!
We are working on a new 'Forum Display Name' capability so that people will at some point in the future be able to change the name used on the forums. Which way we go about that (choose a character name? let you write whatever you want?) is still being decided and that will impact the amount of work required and therefore the 'when'.

This is not something that is planned for April 2nd.

It is also not something that can be easily implemented in a matter of minutes. Regardless of if the change would be as simple as adding a column in a database, there is still getting that data presented to the website securely, providing the ability to input data into the column itself (again securely), and that is before we have our awesome QA team make sure the functionality works as expected. We won't say 'soon' on this feature, as it is too early to be able to predict when this could be rolled out.

Quote: Originally Posted by MrYellowDuck
What is this 'One-Time Password' you speak of?
We will send you a 'One-Time Password', via email, whenever we determine you are attempting to log on from a non-authorized location. This is similar to how we prompt for the Security Questions and Answers today, except instead of having to remember an Answer, you will be provided it via email instead.

With the Security Question and Answer system in place today, it is sometimes possible for an attacker to research a person well enough to be able to have a chance of guessing the correct Answer if they have already got the correct username and password. It is also possible to phish for the Answer if you know the email address.

By changing to a One-Time Password system, this actually decreases the chance an attacker would be able to guess the correct 'answer', as not only will the One-Time Password be randomized each time it is set, there will only be a small number of chances to guess the correct code before the randomization reoccurs and a new password is sent. This keeps a concept called 'entropy' (as applied outside of thermodynamics and instead focusing on 'the degree of disorder or uncertainty in a system') at an extremely high level. If you want an example as applied to passwords, I highly recommend reading XKCD (http://xkcd.com/936/).

If anybody ever does actually guess the One-Time Password, they should immediately go out and buy a single-line lottery ticket. Actually they would have far more chance winning the lottery in the first place. Far, far more chance...

Quote: Originally Posted by MrYellowDuck
Your new system will allow anybody to lock me out! *peck!* This is pathetic!
No. No it will not.

As soon as we detect an attempt to log in from a new 'location', we prompt that location for a One-Time Password which will be delivered to your Email Account (or Security Questions and Answers today). It is only after that prompt is verified that we will move the new location into an Authorized Location status. We do not remove your current Authorized Location as soon as a new location is detected. We keep a number (no I won't say how many) of Authorized Location's in the system, so an attacker can try to lock you out, but they will never succeed as they first have to validate themselves using the One-Time Password. Once the person with access to the Email Account validates using a One-Time Password, from that point forward you will be able to log in from that new Authorized Location and as a result there is no point where an attacker actually lock you out.

Quote: Originally Posted by MrYellowDuck
You don't know what you are doing! You will break my Origin account with all my EA games! I won't be able to log on there with my email address any more!
Actually the Origin authentication system is not changing as a result to the changes within SWTOR. You will still be able to log in to Origin with either your email address or your Origin Display Name. In the background we will still update your Origin password if you change your password on the SWTOR website.

Quote: Originally Posted by MrYellowDuck
But what about my current location? Will I need to be sent a One-Time Password on April 2nd along with everybody else???
Rather than force everybody to get revalidated, we will be grandfathering in existing approved locations, which are based on the existing Security Questions and Answers. If you have a Security Key, that functionality will not change and you will continue to only be required to enter the next Security Key code when you log in.

Quote: Originally Posted by MrYellowDuck
Hang on, if I migrate and have to play from an Internet Cafe while flying to my summer home, will anybody be able to take over my account?
So there are two alternatives here I would recommend. The first is to get a Security Key that you can take with you. This will protect you from any potential key-loggers or other malware on the temporary computer you use. Just don't type your email account password in at the same time unless it is also protected by a two-factor system.

The second alternative is to change your password as soon as possible (from your smartphone or tablet perhaps?) after playing, as that will remove the existing Authorized Locations.

Quote: Originally Posted by MrYellowDuck
You just told the hackers all your secrets! What the? Are you mad? No security 'professional' would ever do that!
I may indeed just have told some amateur hackers a small portion of our security model. You'll be (happy?) to know that the professional hackers figured out these pieces well before launch of the game in 2011 and it hasn't helped them. Additionally there are certain aspects that we can talk about (a variant of Shannon's maxim as applied to overall security systems rather than just cryptography - see Kerckhoffs's principle if you want a more technical view of the background of this maxim). Relying on Security by Obscurity (assuming a username can be kept secret for example) is not a direction we aim towards.

Quote: Originally Posted by MrYellowDuck
Do I have to log in with my character name? It has weird and wonderful characters in it that I can't type easily! What do I have to do?
No. We will not be requiring you to log on with a character name. What you need to use is your Display Name.

Quote: Originally Posted by MrYellowDuck
Well I don't know my Display Name! What do I do?
At any time before April 2nd, you will be able to log on to www.swtor.com (or www.starwarstheoldrepublic.com for those that like typing lots), log in and your Display Name will appear in the upper-right of the website.

Starting April 2nd, you will be able to have your Display Name sent to you via email as part of our first self-service option.

Quote: Originally Posted by MrYellowDuck
You just said you would use my email address to recover my Display Name? I thought you said email addresses are bad?
Well, to be fair if you only know your email address, we have to let you type it in somewhere. Unless you have access to the email account though, you won't be able to read any emails that are sent to that email address. Regardless of if a particular email address is associated with a SWTOR account, you won't know if there is a link unless you do have access to the email account. It is that principle that continues to de-link the email address from the SWTOR account by purely just using the website (or game launcher) itself.

I actually like email addresses and don't think they are bad. They just don't always suit being used as a username based on how we implement the different aspects of authentication.

Quote: Originally Posted by MrYellowDuck
Hang on, I'm a new Free To Play account. I have no email address. What can I do?
At any time a Free To Play account holder can register and validate an email address. Once you get to level 15 in-game, or want to purchase something from us, you will be required to register and validate an email address at that point in time.

Quote: Originally Posted by MrYellowDuck
Are you getting rid of all my Security Questions and Answers? I liked them. Lots.
No. We are keeping the Security Questions and Answers in place and will be using them as a form of verification on the telephone if you ever need to call our Customer Services team. A lot of the changes going into place on April 2nd are to help enable self-service systems so that you will not need to call CS as often. We appreciate that when there is a holding queue that it is very annoying, and if calling internationally also not free. We would like to reduce costs where we can both for our players as well as ourselves.

Of course, we want to keep your accounts secure, so we are not reducing security to try and save costs and instead changing security slightly.

For the Free To Play accounts, Security Questions and Answers are also required when you want to purchase something from us.

Quote: Originally Posted by MrYellowDuck
Is there anything I should do? I'm but a simple duck and computers and stuff are not my strong point.
Yes. Yes there is.

As we transition from relying on Answers to Security Questions to sending a One-Time Password to you via email when authenticating, the security of your own Account becomes something you can impact directly by also making sure your Email Account is also secure.

I would recommend you look at the following or get a more computer savvy friend to help:
  • Use a unique, complex and as lengthy as you can password (stressing it is used nowhere else) on your email account
  • Where possible add a two-factor system to your email account - 2-Step on GMail is a great example
  • Make sure your connections to email are secured by SSL or similar. Basic SMTP (sends email in plain text) can easily disclose your password to somebody watching your network as can unsecured POP3 or IMAP
  • Ensure you have a good AV program installed and kept up to date. Microsoft Security Essentials for example is free on Windows and is one of many great choices
  • Don't visit hacker websites (or for that matter most adult-entertainment sites). A lot of them have virus attacks included in viewing the pages
  • Don't open attachments on emails that you aren't expecting. You have more chance of winning the lottery by buying a ticket in a shop...
  • Don't click links you don't know inside emails. Go to the website you think you need to go to and type the url in the hard way. Takes longer, but helps protect you...
  • There are many other things you can do - research 'securing my home computer' on Google and do 'all the things' you can!

Quote: Originally Posted by MrYellowDuck
Why are you wasting all this time on changing something that I don't think needs changing? Make better graphics! Put in more flashpoints! We want more content, not more security! *peck!*
I have to say I am constantly amazed at what our artists can do. Lets just say I'm artistically challenged and my stick figures are pathetic and quite ugly to behold... I'm also not one of the server or game engineers and I don't think any of us want me messing around with code that could create full-scale blackouts across entire shards if it is written incorrectly. Basically we have many teams here and my specific team will continue to focus on the security aspects as that is what we are actually here for. Think of it as an added bonus.

Quote: Originally Posted by MrYellowDuck
You keep mentioning two-factor. What does that mean?
I'm going to copy/paste most of an answer I gave in the previous thread.
In the security field, when waffling on about authentication we talk of two-factor quite a bit. Two-factor (or dual-factor) is actually not 'the most secure' that we can be, as it really stands for 'two of three factors'. Those factors are:
  • Something I know (e.g. password)
  • Something I am (e.g. biometrics)
  • Something I have (e.g. security key)
I have often thought that putting all three factors in place would be awesome, but nobody liked my 'pint of blood in order to play' suggestion, so we haven't moved into biometrics as a requirement.
As it is sure to come up, let us be clear that Security Questions and Answers (SQA's) are not truly two-factor. It's the first factor applied twice, so leaves us in a hybrid/grey area which counter-intuitively is actually very secure. Just not as secure as a true two-factor system.
The key implementation that we are currently missing as mandated for all players is 'Something I have'. The Security Key is available and doing well today, and while I would love to see more people using them, we are not pushing people to have a Security Key as a mandatory requirement. Truth be told we deliberately do not make a profit on the physical security key, and absorb all of the cost of the mobile security key.
One last thing that I should also point out, the Security Key is a time-limited code that changes frequently. If you think somebody can brute force their way through an account secured by a Security Key, then you should look into lottery tickets. It's far easier to win the jackpot in the lottery...


Quote: Originally Posted by MrYellowDuck
OK, you have convinced me! Quack Quack! What is your email address so I can send you money via PayPal as thanks for all you have done?
Why thank you! My email address is ph..... Oh hang on, I see what you did there. Naughty duck!


OK, enough monologue from me! If you have questions or comments, please don't hesitate to reply. I can't promise an immediate turn-around, but we will be watching this thread and there will be replies when we can get them posted. I would however ask that you refrain from being too descriptive if you feel the need to say I'm wrong anywhere - the forum rules still apply.

Phillip Holmes
SWTOR Head of Security

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Brewski
03.18.2013 , 10:37 AM | #2
Good for you on trying to get out in front of the panic. It won't work, but it's nice to see someone try.

And in general, thanks for the information.

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meisterjedi
03.18.2013 , 10:56 AM | #3
So every time I have to answer a security question now, I will have to check my email and copy-paste a code?
That is a major annoyance for me, as everytime I restart my PC the game and the website ask for a security question.
Please tell me, that that is not true!

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JPryde
03.18.2013 , 11:02 AM | #4
This leaves two questions open for me:

1. How do you determine "changed location" ? before I got a authenticator, I was prompted my security question every day I logged in, simply cause my ISP hands me a different IP every day. The chance, that I will ever reuse the same IP is very low, even though I am always using the same computer. I would obviously not be pleased, if I would have to wait for a mail and enter some security code very single day in the future. Or is this security measure void, if there is an authenticator used ?

2. Since this information is obviously important enough that the security chief does post himself, how long will it take to get this information translated into the two other languages, that this forum supports ? (This time it is not "just before the weekend")

Oh and on a side note... Maybe I am just not getting the joke or it is lost in translation, but if I were making fun of customers, who are weary about security issues, by comparing them with a hysterical duck, my boss would likely lock me up in the companies basement and deny me any access to public channels.. .and he would do right.
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b-morgan
03.18.2013 , 11:13 AM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by Phillip_BW View Post

We are working on a new 'Forum Display Name' capability so that people will at some point in the future be able to change the name used on the forums. Which way we go about that (choose a character name? let you write whatever you want?) is still being decided and that will impact the amount of work required and therefore the 'when'.

This is not something that is planned for April 2nd.

It is also not something that can be easily implemented in a matter of minutes. Regardless of if the change would be as simple as adding a column in a database, there is still getting that data presented to the website securely, providing the ability to input data into the column itself (again securely), and that is before we have our awesome QA team make sure the functionality works as expected. We won't say 'soon' on this feature, as it is too early to be able to predict when this could be rolled out.
I believe this feature will go a long way towards calming the fears of the majority of the players. I hope it happens sooner rather than later.

I would suggest that you implement this feature as either change the "forum display name" or change the "login display name". While I currently have unique "login name/email" and "password" pairs for different games, I have not used unique "forum names" so when you separate "forum display name" and "login display name" I would like to change the one I consider less secure.

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Felioats
03.18.2013 , 11:14 AM | #6
Get a security key, people. Even if it's only for the 100 cartel coins per month (which you even get as a free-to-player) and the exclusive vendor.

It's really no inconvenience to enter the number, and while I've never worried about my MMO accounts, being pretty much certain it's safe is nice.
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Nothematic
03.18.2013 , 11:18 AM | #7
Honestly cannot wait to finally have the option to remove my security key myself. Fed up of having to sit on hold for 6 hours for a 5 minute conversation. Looking good to finally have these features.

Now we need character transfers and many will be happy bunnies
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03.18.2013 , 11:38 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by JPryde View Post
1. How do you determine "changed location" ? before I got a authenticator, I was prompted my security question every day I logged in, simply cause my ISP hands me a different IP every day. The chance, that I will ever reuse the same IP is very low, even though I am always using the same computer. I would obviously not be pleased, if I would have to wait for a mail and enter some security code very single day in the future. Or is this security measure void, if there is an authenticator used ?
This apparently is issue many players will have, so I'm really hoping for some reasonable reply(meaning not "I'm sorry but you'll have to suck it up and deal with email or authenticator").


Also.
Quote: Originally Posted by Phillip_BW View Post
Why thank you! My email address is ph..... Oh hang on, I see what you did there. Naughty duck!
Oh, come on, everyone should have at least one 'unsafe' email for such things.

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03.18.2013 , 11:41 AM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by Phillip_BW View Post

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Glzmo
03.18.2013 , 11:54 AM | #10
Looks good, Phil. With customizable forum aliases/display names tht are separate from login names in the pipe, everything should be fine.

I'm especially looking forward to the self-management utilities, as I spent around €60 on phone bills last month just to get that buggy mobile security key removed from my account, which took so long (to get through) that my 6 month subscription auto-renewed and I was screwed out of even more money. I hope the features you're implementing will help prevent such occurences in the future.