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Ilum XP Farm


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Andryah
03.18.2013 , 10:10 AM | #111
Quote: Originally Posted by JoeeyyMagzz View Post
I am still failing to see the problem with this? If players want to get to 50 as fast as possible, why should they be stopped? I fail to see how people getting from level 1-50 in 20 hours or whatever affects my gameplay in the slightest... If it's someone's very first toon ever and they're doing that, then they are only cheating themselves and I don't care. If it's their 10th toon getting to 50, then they are fully capable of getting to 50 via other means and I still don't care...
/Agree.

Nothing more to say really. JM nailed it as far as I am concerned.
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itsmymillertime
03.18.2013 , 10:16 AM | #112
Bioware stated it was a level 45+ area, if they do not enforce it, then the players are not at fault. It is like when a higher level groups up with a lower level and blows through content for the lower level to level faster.

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TUXs
03.18.2013 , 10:17 AM | #113
Quote: Originally Posted by itsmymillertime View Post
Bioware stated it was a level 45+ area, if they do not enforce it, then the players are not at fault. It is like when a higher level groups up with a lower level and blows through content for the lower level to level faster.
I thought the 45+ was just for the missions, not the area?!
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Urael
03.18.2013 , 10:18 AM | #114
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
Fact: people level to cap faster in MMOs over time (when compared to when the MMO launched). It's the nature of MMOs for the most part. Some of it is player skill, some is game mechanics. Why do people care how fast someone else levels a character? Your not playing that character and getting to level cap one dimensionally does not make a character superduper in any way.
Indeed. Leveling speed increases after the first time to CAP in any MMORPG (unless one is a derp). One learns the patterns and pitfalls of a particular games leveling progresson/path and learns to optimize on each subsequent toon regardless of class played. That said, a path that is basically instant CAP is a cheezy way to level. Why bother with a progression like this. Just give people "instant 50s" after the first and be done with it. This has to be an unintended leveling experience ( but, not an exploit unless EAware identifies it as such).

Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
... as I enjoy taking the time to level a character via normal PvE routes... so don't even bother trying to gank me over this.
Indeed. I have never minded a leveling progression. It gives me time to learn each class I play in each game I play. There may be "areas" of a particular leveling path that I loathe (Taris Imp or Pub in SWTOR, ALL of Outland in WoW) but as for a process I don't mind leveling.

((Still able to post with no time remaining for about 5 days now .. I guess when server reset happens tonight I am done. LoL ))

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Savej
03.18.2013 , 10:20 AM | #115
Quote: Originally Posted by TUXs View Post
What does that tell you about the sub 50 leveling process? If, as you claim, "no one", other than a select few, want to level the traditional way, what is wrong with providing people an alternative? I WANT to play the game, and this is not a problem to me. The reality is, 1-49, or leveling, is only done in MMOs, by the majority of players, because it's necessary to reach 50 (or level cap). This is why end game content needs to be heavily focused on in MMOs - players spend most of their time playing AT level cap.
Give people everything they think they want for little effort and yes, they will gobble it up. But then they will get bored and move on very quickly thereafter. Sort of like making a 2 hour Star Wars movie showing nothing but two characters dueling with lightsabers - it's what you want, sortof, but without context it is pointless and cheap. This leveling process has the potential to remove that context for anyone (brand new players, soon-to-be-disgusted old players, etc.). MMO design 101 - don't allow this.

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JoeeyyMagzz
03.18.2013 , 10:23 AM | #116
Quote: Originally Posted by Urael View Post
Indeed. Leveling speed increases after the first time to CAP in any MMORPG (unless one is a derp).
I don't know why, especially since the term has been popular since EQ days, but whenever I see derp I always laugh hysterically. <3 gamers for coming up with the greatest terminology on the planet. <3 non-gamers for being oblivious, using our terminology, and thinking it's "cool".

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TUXs
03.18.2013 , 10:32 AM | #117
Quote: Originally Posted by Savej View Post
Give people everything they think they want for little effort and yes, they will gobble it up. But then they will get bored and move on very quickly thereafter. Sort of like making a 2 hour Star Wars movie showing nothing but two characters dueling with lightsabers - it's what you want, sortof, but without context it is pointless and cheap. This leveling process has the potential to remove that context for anyone (brand new players, soon-to-be-disgusted old players, etc.). MMO design 101 - don't allow this.
What? Not everyone is a roleplayer wanting to sit through all that. I'll still go back and do the class quests, but I'll do them back-to-back and enjoy them 100x's more than splitting them up like the current alternative is. Call it cheap if you want, but I don't enjoy the leveling the same way you seem to.

And I disagree with you. MMO design 101 should allow for alternative leveling processes, not repeating the same quests ad nausem.
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Rafaman
03.18.2013 , 10:33 AM | #118
Meh... XP farming was probably an unintended consequence of the event lining up with XP weekend but who cares. Didn't bother me in the slightest and, tbh, seeing peeps group in mass, play together and have a good time doing it was and is a good thing.

A couple of rebuttal arguments to what I've read.

First to those that worry that now there will be fresh 50s that don't know how to play. Heh. There are plenty of 50s that "learn how to play" after they cap aside from this event. Many respec as the leveling skills and trees are no longer relevant and they want to focus on raid builds. Others begin to focus on group content. Nothing wrong with that and it is quite easy to learn. Besides... most players looking to power level now are doing so on their alts. They know the game and the mechanics. Getting to 50 is no longer a learning process for them.

Second, to those that feel that farming is and exploit an unfair competitive advantage that is tantamount to cheating; yea... it is not. You are not in a direct competition with these other players. The fact that they get to 50 using a shortcut does not cheat you out of your gaming experience. Not sure why you care tbh... and it smacks of the p2w hysteria. People do not have to play your way, even in on RP server btw.

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Andryah
03.18.2013 , 10:33 AM | #119
Quote: Originally Posted by Urael View Post
((Still able to post with no time remaining for about 5 days now .. I guess when server reset happens tonight I am done. LoL ))
Hehe... so I see.

I'm sure the neff bat is coming your way soon on the fourm posting priviledges though.
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Andryah
03.18.2013 , 10:37 AM | #120
Quote: Originally Posted by Rafaman View Post
Not sure why you care tbh... and it smacks of the p2w hysteria.
I agree.

This is probably this weeks rant-dejour.

Last week it was the Cartel Market again, getting beaten like anwanted pet, most recently over faux-hysteria about faux-rep being faux-P2W. The week before that it was the faux-rage at....at.... heh, I can't remember. That's how significant this kind of complaining is actually....nobody remembers past the prior week.... it's like the cable news cycles I guess.
When you find yourself surrounded by hostile Clowns... always go for the "Juggler" first.