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Unsubscriber's Thread: Tell us a few things

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DarthTHC
03.12.2013 , 02:08 PM | #651
You keep pushing cartel market. You keep pushing the players to see how much ******** they'll take. When you push too hard and the players cry foul, you pull back a bit.

You have demonstrated no respect for the integrity of the game. You have demonstrated no desire or ability to produce subscription-worthy content at a pace worthy of subscription.

I've enjoyed playing the game for over a year. Counting game test, almost 2 years. But I see little likelihood of enjoyable content on the horizon.

I'm not enthralled by cartel market fluff. I'm leery of the testing of p2w that cartel market is doing. The way you designed it - that all CM items can be put on GTN and all subs get coins - is brilliant in that it will have a small, vocal core of rabid white knights defending any degree of transgression against the integrity of the game as "still not p2w".

I don't like where I see the game going.

It's sad, really. Between the SW IP, the amazing stories, and the good gameplay you could have had something awesome. Instead you're turning it into Sims:Star Wars via the cartel shop.

But, of course, all the insanely talented writers who created the stories are gone now, aren't they?

Thanks for the stories, especially the Agent one.

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Blackavaar
03.12.2013 , 06:53 PM | #652
Unsubbed as of today. 154 days remaining.

The Cartel Market Rep grind is an affront to all subscribers. Eric Musco telling us that we can get them in game via the GTN or save our stipend for the packs is not acceptable since it would anyone doing so literally years to do so. This plus realizing the fact that there has not been a single addition or even a bug fix to the achievable in-game Armor and Crafting Armor sets shows me that EA/BioWare no longer care about subscribers. They only care about the morons who keep buying gamble boxes. Well, good luck keeping your game going with that alone.

I'm done. Bye.

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Talon_strikes
03.12.2013 , 07:29 PM | #653
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackavaar View Post
Unsubbed as of today. 154 days remaining.

The Cartel Market Rep grind is an affront to all subscribers. Eric Musco telling us that we can get them in game via the GTN or save our stipend for the packs is not acceptable since it would anyone doing so literally years to do so. This plus realizing the fact that there has not been a single addition or even a bug fix to the achievable in-game Armor and Crafting Armor sets shows me that EA/BioWare no longer care about subscribers. They only care about the morons who keep buying gamble boxes. Well, good luck keeping your game going with that alone.

I'm done. Bye.

Another guy who really supported and defended the game... now gone. First Urael, and now Blackavaar. EAWare should be disappointed in themselves.
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CelCawdro
03.12.2013 , 07:41 PM | #654
Quote: Originally Posted by Zoiks View Post
Number of new and much more interesting MMOs are on the horizon
Not to belittle the rest of your very legitimate points, but I find this particular point to be... interesting, to say the least. MMO players have become exactly like the single/multiplayer market. They always gravitate to the Next Big Thing™, but the developers of these games continually aim to net players longterm, which simply isn't a reality in the genre anymore.

The masses converge on a game due to hype, learn the realities of the game, get disappointed, vent, and play until the next release. Rinse and repeat. It would be interesting to see a developer actually make an MMO based on this nature.

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mothear
03.12.2013 , 08:05 PM | #655
Yes I think it is time for me to call it a day also, even though I still have to finish the BH story, and haven't even done the JK story yet.

Reasons -

1. I don't raid or PvP in this game but look more at professions and levelling alts.

It is obvious from the PTS that professions are now wasted with no more non-moddible schematics for armormechs/armstech/synthweavers - only adaptive/mods/enhancements/augments. I've spent hours re-engineering for the correct purple designations but they are no more it seems. I therefore won't be buying RoTHC and therefore there seems little point in remaining subbed as any new content will be no doubt aimed at level 55.

2. The lack of class story in the new 'Expansion' is to me unacceptable but I could have overlooked it if I believed that the direction the game is going was OK. As an 'alter' I love rep grinds and the like as these are things for me to do when I reach max level, but the decision to put in a rep grind based off of cartel packs is in my opinion unconcionable and kills the game for me. Whether people call it pay to win or not, I don't care it is content gated from a subscriber in my opinion.

I may log in in a few weeks and try F2P to finish the stories, but will not be spending another cent.

So long guys/girls it was fun whilst it lasted.

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Jeweledleah
03.12.2013 , 08:16 PM | #656
I don't have a formal subscription as I've been paying with time cards lately, so I cannot leave feedback privately. hence posting in this thread.

between current direction of cartel market, calling new rep "thanks" to players have have been purchasing items of cartel market before, and draconian weekly limits on commendations, I just don't see any point in subscribing anymore. I still have stories I want to finish and I don't hate the game, especially base game. class stories haven't gotten any less fun.

however, my main reason for subscribing was to not have to worry about limitations of f2p version. now that I'm going to be limited regardless, both in terms of my ability to gain rep and upgrades WHILE leveling? I might as well play less on my own terms, without paying $15 a month and spend more time on other games I currently own and rarely play.

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OldRepJedi
03.13.2013 , 12:06 PM | #657
Quote: Originally Posted by Toweleeeie View Post
Wait... That really happened? That is so funny. I wish this game had fun times like that.
There is nothing funny about disrespecting someone's real life death like that. People that new this person and was in that world with them wanted to honor that person. Then some people who thought it would be funny to just rush in and kill everyone who were trying to remember a friend come in and do that. Not funny and extremely poor taste.
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chuixupu
03.13.2013 , 12:59 PM | #658
Quote: Originally Posted by OldRepJedi View Post
There is nothing funny about disrespecting someone's real life death like that. People that new this person and was in that world with them wanted to honor that person. Then some people who thought it would be funny to just rush in and kill everyone who were trying to remember a friend come in and do that. Not funny and extremely poor taste.
That video was on Youtube...it probably still is.

It does give you a good idea of how douchey a lot of MMO gamers are.
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Hekati
03.13.2013 , 01:21 PM | #659
Well, I'm a bit of a different case--I unsubbed in December and just came back. But I figured my answers could still give a little insight.

Quote:
What are your top 5 reasons why you left the game?
1) I signed up for PVE, never having played an MMO before, and when the servers were merged, I initially struggled with the PVP experience, such as etiquette in dealing with other players, etc.
2) To expand on that with a specific issue, I had been playing on super low-pop servers. Being moved to servers where there were people running around everywhere was daunting enough--especially when everyone's trying to grab the same bomb/chest/other physical plot point. But then I had several experiences when another player(s) would wait for me to engage with the baddies needed to access the bomb/chest/whatever and then would dart in to what I would call "steal" it from me. Really, really pissed me off.
3) Around upgrade 1.4.1, I started having really bad lag issues and other graphics problems. I was in the minority, but that was the case for me. The game started getting unplayable.
4) I nosed around on the forums and found that I really was in the minority as to having these problems with the upgrades, so I figured it was something that wouldn't be at the forefront for getting "fixed." (And yes, all my software and settings were as they should be for optimal play.)
5) The credit card that was being used for the monthly auto-pay got hacked (elsewhere) and the card cancelled. I considered it a sign.

So...why am I back?

1) I needed a diversion from some personal issues causing me heavy stress.
2) Mild curiosity to see what had changed since F2P had been introduced, including what the population on the server looked like.
3) Pleasantly surprised to find that, with several updates, most of my graphics/lag issues have been resolved.
4) I've found interacting with other players, whether via general chat or in groups, to be much improved. Not sure why.
5) It really is a compelling game with excellent characters/story arcs and I would actually like to get one of my toons past level 24.

Maybe this helped?

Edited to add: Just saw my old sig! Had forgotten...guess I have to change that, lol.
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Darknessinme
03.13.2013 , 01:28 PM | #660
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackavaar View Post
Unsubbed as of today. 154 days remaining.

The Cartel Market Rep grind is an affront to all subscribers. Eric Musco telling us that we can get them in game via the GTN or save our stipend for the packs is not acceptable since it would anyone doing so literally years to do so. This plus realizing the fact that there has not been a single addition or even a bug fix to the achievable in-game Armor and Crafting Armor sets shows me that EA/BioWare no longer care about subscribers. They only care about the morons who keep buying gamble boxes. Well, good luck keeping your game going with that alone.

I'm done. Bye.

I aggree with what he has said and I too feel this way. I have been playing since launch and I still enjoy the game. But the direction it is going is something I can now longer support. I see no point in waiting any longer. IMO, it is no longer worth my subscription cost for me to continue. Today is my last day of active subscription. Why am I leaving…well here are some of the many reasons.
1. Server Transfers
2. Cartel Market Rep System
3. Not listening to its paying customers in many aspects of this game

These are just a few things that have helped me reach this decision. Again, this is IMO only, but it has been voiced in other people’s reasons for leaving as well.

I truly wish nothing but success for this game and I have enjoyed this community immensely. Enjoy your adventures and may the “Force be with you all”!!