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No Voip programs in game still?

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GalaxyStrong
03.11.2013 , 02:28 PM | #81
Quote: Originally Posted by PurpleLynx View Post
Your last statement is very simplistic. There are many reasons this may or not be on the table. integrated voice is hardly the norm, and adding it after-market may be worse than not having it. We don't know what's going on in BW or EA, and if you claim to, you either work for one of them, work for a competitor and are trying to stir trouble, or are deluded.
In all the games I have played from BW, integrated voice was never added. EA doesn't have it. Going out to other companies I know about, Turbine uses it a lot, but it sounds like Activision decided it wasnt good for WOW. Do I like it for LOTRO, hell yeah, its handy. Would I like it here, who knows, depends on how its implemented, but so far there has been no official statement regarding it.
It's a simplistic statement because it's a simple problem. It's not cost effective for EA and therefore they are not going to green light it under any conditions no matter how bad we want it and If you think that's being deluded then your simply to young and inexperienced in the real world and a little thing I like to call GREED.

I don't like it any more than you do but, it is what it is.
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Gelantious
03.11.2013 , 02:36 PM | #82
Majority of people would turn it off right away, so you'd essentially be talking to yourself. At least in pugs.
And friends already use alternatives, especially since it makes it easier when switching between games or just being social.

No one wants to listen to some random person breathing, playing bad music, munching on food, cursing and so on and so forth.
Not to mention the language barrier, at least here in the EU.
Sure most can type/write in English, but very few are comfortable enough to actually speak it. Even more so when there's a high chance some ....... will start cursing at them for having a dialect or pronounce something wrong and so on.

Thus it's pointless to add it.

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PurpleLynx
03.11.2013 , 03:12 PM | #83
Quote: Originally Posted by GalaxyStrong View Post
It's a simplistic statement because it's a simple problem. It's not cost effective for EA and therefore they are not going to green light it under any conditions no matter how bad we want it and If you think that's being deluded then your simply to young and inexperienced in the real world and a little thing I like to call GREED.

I don't like it any more than you do but, it is what it is.
First of all, I'm hardly too young to understand corporate greed. But I also understand bottom lines, as well as customer satisfaction. You have no clue what EA is talking about, or if this has even been discussed, or will be discussed. Are you in the board room? Planning room? No. Greed is WAY to simple of a word to throw around. EA is probably not even caring what SWTOR has, as they have many titles and many departments that are all reporting to the corporate leadership.

EA and BW most likely don't even have the tech to just throw this in even if they wanted to to. It would require development, or at least research to find a compatible system. Then testing, then more testing. You cannot toss in a system that the game may or may not be able to even handle just because some players "demand" it, especially when there ARE software packages already on the market that cover the need. Do they even have the development resources to cover something like this? Has it ever even been considered? You simply cannot know the the answers to these questions. It goes beyond greed, it goes into is it feasible, financially and developmentally, to add this, especially as I said, there is software that does this and works fine with product.

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Seireeni
03.11.2013 , 03:34 PM | #84
Quote: Originally Posted by GalaxyStrong View Post
I have basically read this entire thread and I have not seen one valid argument as to why we shouldn't have VOIP. The only halfway decent argument is this. I know their are a lot of hearing impaired people that fear the introduction of an integrated VOIP system because they think people will not play with them because they cant speak properly due to their hearing impairment.
Some people can't speak good english because english isn't their first language and they don't have to speak it often in work, so they get no practice.

Also, I'm suffering from the fear of the social situations. I actually have had breathing trouble when renting a video just because there was one time once that didn't go as planned. Now, writing is so much easier for me, because I can still write normally even if I would get nervous or even have a little trouble breathing (having a little right now because you might get angry and start kind of "virtually-screaming" at me for disagreeing with you), and no one would know the difference. Also, if I feel too horrible, I can decide not to read the text that you may answer me with. Rude, but possible.
Now, I don't even owm a mic, so I wouldn't talk in this kind of problem. But if people start to sound really negative (shouting at people, swearing, name-calling other people), I'd surely get a lot of breathing trouble. And if someone would start doing that to me directly, I'd most likely have a panic attack.
Good enough reason for you?

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anthemambient
03.11.2013 , 03:35 PM | #85
Quote: Originally Posted by mosskiller View Post
I just cant understand why after all this time that Bioware has not instituted a voice program in order to communicate in groups and operation groups. I understand there are programs such as Ventrilo,Mumble,Teamspeak, etc... It just would seem that it would be more effective to have a system in game to use.

I bring this up as many times I will have somone in a group that says they dont want to download that program, or they have one of the programs and dont want to download another.

In conclusion I would say that the addition of a voice program in game may lead to more commuinication and success rate in both PVE and PVP of this game.
IIRC, WOW has in-game voice chat but the majority of players opted out and used third-party.
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anthemambient
03.11.2013 , 03:44 PM | #86
Quote: Originally Posted by Seireeni View Post
Some people can't speak good english because english isn't their first language and they don't have to speak it often in work, so they get no practice.

Also, I'm suffering from the fear of the social situations. I actually have had breathing trouble when renting a video just because there was one time once that didn't go as planned. Now, writing is so much easier for me, because I can still write normally even if I would get nervous or even have a little trouble breathing (having a little right now because you might get angry and start kind of "virtually-screaming" at me for disagreeing with you), and no one would know the difference. Also, if I feel too horrible, I can decide not to read the text that you may answer me with. Rude, but possible.
Now, I don't even owm a mic, so I wouldn't talk in this kind of problem. But if people start to sound really negative (shouting at people, swearing, name-calling other people), I'd surely get a lot of breathing trouble. And if someone would start doing that to me directly, I'd most likely have a panic attack.
Good enough reason for you?
I have speaking trouble. I can communicate well, but not as I used to because of traumatic brain injury. My lungs aren't as strong as it once was and sometimes people have a hard time understanding me. I get discouraged at times so I decided to get a microphone and headphone to try to get into raid communication. Works out well but mostly I just do the listening at the moment. I do wish my speech by mouth was stronger, but I do like the now alternative of writing--a form of art, in my opinion.
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Seireeni
03.11.2013 , 03:55 PM | #87
Quote: Originally Posted by anthemambient View Post
I have speaking trouble. I can communicate well, but not as I used to because of traumatic brain injury. My lungs aren't as strong as it once was and sometimes people have a hard time understanding me. I get discouraged at times so I decided to get a microphone and headphone to try to get into raid communication. Works out well but mostly I just do the listening at the moment. I do wish my speech by mouth was stronger, but I do like the now alternative of writing--a form of art, in my opinion.
Nice that it works out that well for you, I really am happy for you, but my worries are also on the listening part. Judging by the ops chat in pvp, people at least in there get really angry, really fast. And that would mean sleepless nights for me simply because it would take hours to calm down after a little evening pvp. Or alternatively, I'd stop doing much anything but things I can do solo or with my friends, who know not to freak out at me.

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DAMossimo
03.11.2013 , 03:58 PM | #88
Quote: Originally Posted by Seireeni View Post
Some people can't speak good english because english isn't their first language and they don't have to speak it often in work, so they get no practice.

Also, I'm suffering from the fear of the social situations. I actually have had breathing trouble when renting a video just because there was one time once that didn't go as planned. Now, writing is so much easier for me, because I can still write normally even if I would get nervous or even have a little trouble breathing (having a little right now because you might get angry and start kind of "virtually-screaming" at me for disagreeing with you), and no one would know the difference. Also, if I feel too horrible, I can decide not to read the text that you may answer me with. Rude, but possible.
Now, I don't even owm a mic, so I wouldn't talk in this kind of problem. But if people start to sound really negative (shouting at people, swearing, name-calling other people), I'd surely get a lot of breathing trouble. And if someone would start doing that to me directly, I'd most likely have a panic attack.
Good enough reason for you?
Seems like a good enough reason for you not to utilize it, so if it were implemented, you wouldn't use it.

I sympathize with your issue, but the fact that a few people have a medical or social issue with an in-game voice chat client shouldn't mean that the rest of us who would use it can't have it.

Really, if we went down that road, how many features would we have left after every one that someone didn't approve of got removed from or was never added to the game?

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gladiator_mohaa
03.11.2013 , 04:04 PM | #89
I went through the trouble of hosting a teamspeak server for my guild and no one uses it. I mean no one. While I feel your pain because I hate typing and naturally love talking, I don't think it will happen.

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Seireeni
03.11.2013 , 04:06 PM | #90
Quote: Originally Posted by DAMossimo View Post
Seems like a good enough reason for you not to utilize it, so if it were implemented, you wouldn't use it.

I sympathize with your issue, but the fact that a few people have a medical or social issue with an in-game voice chat client shouldn't mean that the rest of us who would use it can't have it.

Really, if we went down that road, how many features would we have left after every one that someone didn't approve of got removed from or was never added to the game?
I do realize that games can't be made so that every single person can use every single thing in it. I merely answered a post of a person saying that there haven't been presented any good reasons why this thing wouldn't work, if we don't count that hearing-impared-thing he presented himself. There. 1 good reason for that guy.