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The Results are In! Imp solo queues.

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The Results are In! Imp solo queues.
 

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Ekoado
03.10.2013 , 03:47 PM | #1

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randiesel
03.10.2013 , 05:30 PM | #2
So a 48% win ratio is effectively winning half your games. Not the end of the world like you initially posted.

If for some reason winning half of your games is a bad thing, as for some reason I get that impression, then I think you're just looking for negative remarks.
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03.10.2013 , 05:46 PM | #3
The most interesting thing I find here is the % of Rep wins that are qualified as "Annihalations" As opposed to the % of Imp wins that could be qualified as that. I'm also curious as to what the OP would qualify as "Close, Decisive or Annihalated wins."
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Ekoado
03.10.2013 , 06:03 PM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by randiesel View Post
So a 48% win ratio is effectively winning half your games. Not the end of the world like you initially posted.

If for some reason winning half of your games is a bad thing, as for some reason I get that impression, then I think you're just looking for negative remarks.
I think You'll find i edited the original post a number of days ago to reflect the results.

If you look at the severity of the losses however/ the sheer number and variation of rep premades compared to imp there are still some negative aspects.

However there are many positive things we can take from this too.

Don't just assume that I'm only focusing on the negative as we can see from the results there are many things that are looking on the up.

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ace_boogie
03.10.2013 , 06:04 PM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by NamikazeNaruto View Post
The most interesting thing I find here is the % of Rep wins that are qualified as "Annihalations" As opposed to the % of Imp wins that could be qualified as that. I'm also curious as to what the OP would qualify as "Close, Decisive or Annihalated wins."

i think the "annihilations" are quite obvious
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Ekoado
03.10.2013 , 06:07 PM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by NamikazeNaruto View Post
The most interesting thing I find here is the % of Rep wins that are qualified as "Annihalations" As opposed to the % of Imp wins that could be qualified as that. I'm also curious as to what the OP would qualify as "Close, Decisive or Annihalated wins."
I figured someone would mention this haha, granted this introduces some bias but i tried to be as impartial as possible.

A close win would be for example a huttball won by less than 3 goals.
a decisive win would be more than 3 goals.
an annihilation would be 6-0 with 8 minutes to spare.

the same kind of scale applies to 450+-0 civils 100-0 novares etc.

Of course I will admit that this introduces bias to some of the results and this is a potential flaw however, I tried my best to be as impartial with this scale as possible. But it is true that more often than not when you get rolled by certain rep premades the roll the hell outta you.

There was a number of games where you would be spawn camped for example.

These happen on imp side too, but not nearly at the same frequency.

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randiesel
03.10.2013 , 06:25 PM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Ekoado View Post
I think You'll find i edited the original post a number of days ago to reflect the results.

If you look at the severity of the losses however/ the sheer number and variation of rep premades compared to imp there are still some negative aspects.

However there are many positive things we can take from this too.

Don't just assume that I'm only focusing on the negative as we can see from the results there are many things that are looking on the up.
Don't just assume it's negative? Everything you've posted in other threads over the past week has been just that. As I posted in one of those threads, I lose quite a bit going in as a solo-queuer, and I play pub side predominately. That's the case for those of us who solo queue, but I don't see massive amounts of threads complaining about it.

Honestly what you should've posted were comparisons on the amount of ppl who leave your wzs when they know/expect it is a loss. One night I queued on Imp side and it was a definite loss, must've seen 10 new "faces" by the time the warzone ended. Pub side maybe 1 or 2 leave, if it's extremely bad it'l be 3 or 4.

And I don't know what you're trying to point out by posting amount of premades, because from where I sit I see Imp premades all day long.
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Ekoado
03.10.2013 , 06:31 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by randiesel View Post
Don't just assume it's negative? Everything you've posted in other threads over the past week has been just that. As I posted in one of those threads, I lose quite a bit going in as a solo-queuer, and I play pub side predominately. That's the case for those of us who solo queue, but I don't see massive amounts of threads complaining about it.

Honestly what you should've posted were comparisons on the amount of ppl who leave your wzs when they know/expect it is a loss. One night I queued on Imp side and it was a definite loss, must've seen 10 new "faces" by the time the warzone ended. Pub side maybe 1 or 2 leave, if it's extremely bad it'l be 3 or 4.

And I don't know what you're trying to point out by posting amount of premades, because from where I sit I see Imp premades all day long.
lol can anyone else literally feel the utter rage in these words haha.

Well for a start I've proved you wrong lol

There are more rep premades by a good amount if you take all the rep pvp guilds into account. The only reason Imps even come remotely close is because of the sheer numbers of Unicorn Stampede.

But to be fair the majority of the wins overall come from imps winning in pug v pug matches.

Whereas the majority of losses were because of Rep premades.

I'll let you take from that what you will.

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mfourcustom
03.10.2013 , 06:39 PM | #9
Did you make all those graphs yourself?? das so cooooooooool! loooook what i can make

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randiesel
03.10.2013 , 06:42 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by Ekoado View Post
lol can anyone else literally feel the utter rage in these words haha.

Well for a start I've proved you wrong lol

There are more rep premades by a good amount if you take all the rep pvp guilds into account. The only reason Imps even come remotely close is because of the sheer numbers of Unicorn Stampede.

But to be fair the majority of the wins overall come from imps winning in pug v pug matches.

Whereas the majority of losses were because of Rep premades.

I'll let you take from that what you will.
Well then all I can tell you then is you wasted your time. It shouldn't even go beyond being a thought in your mind of "I wonder if premades ALWAYS win against pugs, b/c that's who I usually lose against". Any time/effort you put into your analysis I would consider wasted b/c that is a no-brainer.

I don't care to take away anything from this: You see pub premades all day long, I happen to see Imp premades all day long. The fact that you didn't see them in your particular groups during your "gathering" doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Multiple groups run concurrent warzones all day long.

And no rage in my words, take it as you will. You simply put not to expect a negative response, but your other threads came across very much so as complaining about the state of republic/imperial pvp on this server. You did your analysis, and I think the best thing to bring away from your "experience" is you proved yourself wrong by showing that you do in fact win more than you realize.

For statistical analysis, make a republic toon on the PTS, get the instant level 55 buff and do the same analysis you did here. Imps there win all day long, and most of the guilds names I see are from POT5, where they severely outnumber the pubs in both population and skill. You'd get a healthy dose of reality and see that you don't have it quite bad as you thought you did.
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