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Ventessel
03.10.2013 , 08:25 AM | #161
Has Darth Vader been considered as a Kaggath combatant?

He has a squadron of Star Destroyers; the 501st is his personal legion, Vader's Fist; numerous apprentices have been trained by him and could be used as part of his powerbase.

Also, Darth Krayt vs. Darth Malgus would be a good matchup.

Other potential considerations might include the Thursus Sun Guards, the Mystral Shadow Guard, Wraith Squadron (or Rogue Squadron), the NJO (circa 20 ABY) vs. the Jedi Covenant.
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Beniboybling
03.10.2013 , 09:27 AM | #162
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Has Darth Vader been considered as a Kaggath combatant?

He has a squadron of Star Destroyers; the 501st is his personal legion, Vader's Fist; numerous apprentices have been trained by him and could be used as part of his powerbase.
So Death Squadron and Vader's Fist? Good call. I'm also considering Obi-Wan Kenobi and the 212th Attack Battalion/Utapau invasion Force. Just need some matchups, I could put them together but I think there forces are two similar. Well, Vader's force is basically an upgraded version of Obi-Wan's in every respect. Any suggestions are welcome.

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Ventessel
03.10.2013 , 11:30 AM | #163
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So Death Squadron and Vader's Fist? Good call. I'm also considering Obi-Wan Kenobi and the 212th Attack Battalion/Utapau invasion Force. Just need some matchups, I could put them together but I think there forces are two similar. Well, Vader's force is basically an upgraded version of Obi-Wan's in every respect. Any suggestions are welcome.
Not to mention that Vader and Obi-Wan are almost identical as personal combatants on top of that.

What about Darth Caedus? His flagship, the Anakin Solo would make a good matchup for the Executor. Other elements from the Galactic Alliance Navy could make up the rest of Caedus' fleet (they're MC80 cruisers, Endurance fleet carriers, and Nebula-class Star Destroyers for the most part).

Throw in Garen Malek as Vader's apprentice and Ben Skywalker as Caedus' and this could get interesting.

Caedus also has the Galactic Alliance Guard, his personal secret police and intelligence network. Darth Vader has his probe droids, his skills as a fighter pilot, etc.

For the sake of clarity, perhaps Vader should be assessed at the arguable peak of his power, sometime around the time of Empire Strikes Back.
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Wolfninjajedi
03.10.2013 , 12:04 PM | #164
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Not to mention that Vader and Obi-Wan are almost identical as personal combatants on top of that.

What about Darth Caedus? His flagship, the Anakin Solo would make a good matchup for the Executor. Other elements from the Galactic Alliance Navy could make up the rest of Caedus' fleet (they're MC80 cruisers, Endurance fleet carriers, and Nebula-class Star Destroyers for the most part).

Throw in Garen Malek as Vader's apprentice and Ben Skywalker as Caedus' and this could get interesting.

Caedus also has the Galactic Alliance Guard, his personal secret police and intelligence network. Darth Vader has his probe droids, his skills as a fighter pilot, etc.

For the sake of clarity, perhaps Vader should be assessed at the arguable peak of his power, sometime around the time of Empire Strikes Back.
Well the peak of Vader's power is ROTJ.
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Beniboybling
03.10.2013 , 12:28 PM | #165
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What about Darth Caedus? His flagship, the Anakin Solo would make a good matchup for the Executor. Other elements from the Galactic Alliance Navy could make up the rest of Caedus' fleet (they're MC80 cruisers, Endurance fleet carriers, and Nebula-class Star Destroyers for the most part).

Throw in Garen Malek as Vader's apprentice and Ben Skywalker as Caedus' and this could get interesting.

Caedus also has the Galactic Alliance Guard, his personal secret police and intelligence network. Darth Vader has his probe droids, his skills as a fighter pilot, etc.
Perhaps, but Caedus doesn't have a definitive ground force and his fleets possess some similarities to Vader's...

Another option would be Darth Malgus, he has appeared in the prievous Kaggath but not in a 'battleground' format. He's go fleets, a space station, powerful Sith allies, a large ground force and a battlefield - Ilum. Thoughts?

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Ventessel
03.10.2013 , 02:40 PM | #166
We've seen far too much of Malgus on these forums. I'd rather hash out the details of Caedus' forces for a battlefield consideration, since they exist and there's a wealth of information available on the weapons of the time period.

Furthermore, Caedus' forces are differentiated from Vader's in many interesting ways. Compare the composition of their fighter corps, etc. as a starting point. Caedus is basically like Rebel Alliance enhanced.

I think that if the composition of their forces was set to be roughly equal, not accounting for differences in armament and vehicle choice, that you would have two technologically comparable forces led by capable Sith Lords who both have demonstrated a sound grasp of strategy and are accomplished duelists themselves.

Also, they're both new to Kaggath, so it would be a refreshing break from the Traya, Revan, Malgus, Vitiate, Palpatine types who've been hashed out time and time again here.
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Beniboybling
03.10.2013 , 02:59 PM | #167
Quote: Originally Posted by Ventessel View Post
We've seen far too much of Malgus on these forums. I'd rather hash out the details of Caedus' forces for a battlefield consideration, since they exist and there's a wealth of information available on the weapons of the time period.

Furthermore, Caedus' forces are differentiated from Vader's in many interesting ways. Compare the composition of their fighter corps, etc. as a starting point. Caedus is basically like Rebel Alliance enhanced.

I think that if the composition of their forces was set to be roughly equal, not accounting for differences in armament and vehicle choice, that you would have two technologically comparable forces led by capable Sith Lords who both have demonstrated a sound grasp of strategy and are accomplished duelists themselves.

Also, they're both new to Kaggath, so it would be a refreshing break from the Traya, Revan, Malgus, Vitiate, Palpatine types who've been hashed out time and time again here.
Hmmm, but it eliminates the possibility of a ground battle, and a Caedus' fleet is at somewhat a disadvantage compared to Vader's given the lack of a powerful capital ship. (While Malgus could have the Ascendant Spear.) But it is a possibility.

P.S. Still need a matchup for the Ohnaka Gang, Nightsisters are no longer an option.

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Bird_of_Thunder
03.10.2013 , 03:04 PM | #168
Death Watch under Pre Vizla vs. Ohnaka Gang
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LadyKulvax
03.10.2013 , 03:06 PM | #169
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Hmmm, but it eliminates the possibility of a ground battle, and a Caedus' fleet is at somewhat a disadvantage compared to Vader's given the lack of a powerful capital ship. (While Malgus could have the Ascendant Spear.) But it is a possibility.

P.S. Still need a matchup for the Ohnaka Gang, Nightsisters are no longer an option.
Caedus had the Imperial Remnant's Megador Super Star Destroyer as well as the Anakin Solo, if you want to take his fleet at full size.
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Beniboybling
03.10.2013 , 03:11 PM | #170
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Death Watch under Pre Vizla vs. Ohnaka Gang
'fraid Death Watch already has a match. And I think the Death Watch would win that battle. They're just better fighters, tacticians etc.