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Stop forcing PVP on PVE servers


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anonnn
03.08.2013 , 08:48 AM | #271
Quote: Originally Posted by wainot-keel View Post
The way flagging works, how the event was designed ,the whole thing reeked of PvP, regardless of how the quests were named or placed on the map. I have 2 healers so I know.
I got ganked more times on the "PvE" area than in the PvP one (yes, I went there too, to help guildies, to get wz comms for a relic, for a much easier heroic.) I didn't mind getting ganked, I just switched instance, toon, tried later, whatever, but the truth is, aside from the Xeno boss fight, everything was colored by PvP.

PvP was present all the time, either by you being flagged and exposed to ganking and griefing or by you working hard and wasting time to avoid it.
In the end, the event for pve'ers was something do deal with whereas for pvpers was something to enjoy. I hope its next iteration won't be like this.
I must not have been in as crowded of areas and just by chance not as many PvP'ers. I got accidentally flagged maybe only 3 times out of possibly 14 days of running the missions, I don't even remember. I don't think I ever got defeated, I just scuttled and headed to the base to de-flag. The 5-minute wait was annoying but I was still grateful to be without the PvP flag that was forced on me.

I found it fascinating that the entire area was a strange pseudo-PvP-area that refused to let you use PvE Relics you had equipped... and yet if you are careful the entire time, you can do all the missions without getting accidentally flagged even once, and thus the entire set of missions is a PvE experience (with the exception of course of the [PVP] missions). Of course "careful enough" means never using AOE attacks or AOE heals, so it's a little ridiculous ...
Boring conversation anyway.
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SWGEvictee
03.08.2013 , 08:49 AM | #272
Quote: Originally Posted by anonnn View Post
calm down.
rofl.

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anonnn
03.08.2013 , 08:58 AM | #273
Quote: Originally Posted by oaceen View Post
i am a pve-only player on a pve server. typing in capslock or adding a billion color tags isn't going to make your point any clearer to me. i understand. completely. i just disagree (and not even completely).
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It's strange how you start your post with an abuse and then pretend to be the voice of reason. Take your non-harmonious attitude elsewhere ...

Highlighting main points makes the post far easier to read, rather than it being a dull block of monotonous Wheat-colored text. Your opinion on the matter is not pertinent.
Boring conversation anyway.
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LanceCorporalDan
03.08.2013 , 10:19 AM | #274
Quote: Originally Posted by anonnn View Post
You pulled that rule out of thin air, it's borderline maniacal and is the point of blatant disregard for other players. Events are special happenings that have special rewards and are supposed to be enjoyable by all players. If the enjoyability of the Events for strictly PvE-only players means that the Events need to be tweaked slightly, then that's what BioWare needs to consider.

Compare it to Disneyland. You wouldn't dare suggest that to comply with safety regulations, people who have longer hair than 4" were required to get a haircut in order to get on the rides.
No it's not out of thin air. It is simply applying that same "consideration" to ALL players not just that player group you claim to represent.
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SWGEvictee
03.08.2013 , 11:00 AM | #275
Quote: Originally Posted by anonnn View Post
Compare it to Disneyland. You wouldn't dare suggest that to comply with safety regulations, people who have longer hair than 4" were required to get a haircut in order to get on the rides.
This is not an accurate example of what you are requesting though.

A better comparison would be a person who wants to ride the bumper cars at Disneyland but does not enjoy it when other people bump into them during the ride. So instead of being content with the rest if the park they insist Disneyland make a separate ride where no one else is there to bump into them.

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anonnn
03.08.2013 , 12:46 PM | #276
Quote: Originally Posted by SWGEvictee View Post
This is not an accurate example of what you are requesting though.

A better comparison would be a person who wants to ride the bumper cars at Disneyland but does not enjoy it when other people bump into them during the ride. So instead of being content with the rest if the park they insist Disneyland make a separate ride where no one else is there to bump into them.
Failure. Complete inconsideration of others, and ignorance of the fact that there is the PvP flagging system in the first place, to allow any players on PvE servers to avoid PvP. It can have no semblance of something like a bumper car ride. Through your errant analogy you are illustrating just how desperate for argument your chosen posturing is, which is impossible to mend because you refuse to take into consideration the rights of strictly PvE-only players. This inherent flaw in your attitude is just going to cause yourself grief every time you try to argue your case. You, sir, could NEVER become employed at Disneyland.
Boring conversation anyway.
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anonnn
03.08.2013 , 01:02 PM | #277
Quote: Originally Posted by LanceCorporalDan View Post
No it's not out of thin air. It is simply applying that same "consideration" to ALL players not just that player group you claim to represent.
I say it's only fair for strictly PvE-only players if they can earn the same daily Event trophies as other players (without having to flag for PvP), and you claim that there's a rule that prohibits PvE-only players from earning the full daily Event reward as other players without flagging for PvP. I think this is the most ridiculous "argument" posted yet in this thread. You should really just stop posting here ...
Boring conversation anyway.
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SWGEvictee
03.08.2013 , 01:04 PM | #278
Quote: Originally Posted by anonnn View Post
Failure. Complete inconsideration of others, and ignorance of the fact that there is the PvP flagging system in the first place, to allow any players on PvE servers to avoid PvP. It can have no semblance of something like a bumper car ride. Through your errant analogy you are illustrating just how desperate for argument your chosen posturing is, which is impossible to mend because you refuse to take into consideration the rights of strictly PvE-only players. This inherent flaw in your attitude is just going to cause yourself grief every time you try to argue your case. You, sir, could NEVER become employed at Disneyland.
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anonnn
03.08.2013 , 01:36 PM | #279
Quote: Originally Posted by SWGEvictee View Post
Deny it all you want. I hit the target dead center.
Your errant analogy is just a sad and indirect way to try to force PvP on PvE players. You're just a trouble-maker.

Really, you need to stop trolling in this thread ... you have not stated even a single valid rationale for trying to dis-allow consideration of strictly PvE-only players in the Event missions.
Boring conversation anyway.
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SWGEvictee
03.08.2013 , 02:04 PM | #280
Quote: Originally Posted by anonnn View Post
Your errant analogy is just a sad and indirect way to try to force PvP on PvE players. You're just a trouble-maker.

Really, you need to stop trolling in this thread ... you have not stated even a single valid rationale for trying to dis-allow consideration of strictly PvE-only players in the Event missions.
You are the arrogant one aren't you. You should have realized by now that I will not stop voicing my opinion in this thread just because you tell me to go away.

Of course I haven't given a valid rational for disallowing consideration of those who wish to PvE only. That's because they need no consideration beyond the auto flagging issues most here, including myself, agree need fixing. Disneyland is presented as a whole and its patrons may partake of all it has to offer or not according to their desires. Similarly the players of SWTOR may partake fully of the Gree event or not depending on their desires. No extra consideration above and beyond that is needed.