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How I cope with the prequel trilogy (prequel lovers move along)

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How I cope with the prequel trilogy (prequel lovers move along)

calypsissmexy's Avatar

03.06.2013 , 03:32 PM | #1
(First: If you love the prequels, post somewhere else. This thread is for those of us who were epically disappointed)

Now, of course I cope by just being all "**** it" but from a story standpoint, the prequels still need addressing. The story was bad, and inconsistent with things said in ep4, 5, and 6. So which wins when inconsistencies and contradictions hit?

This is how I figure it. If we pretend that these things actually happened (which they didn't) and that the stories we've been told were passed down through history, the original trilogy is likely the more accurate, because it was witnessed by Luke, Han, and Leia who won at Endor and passed the story on to their children.

The prequels were witnessed by Obi-Wan who hid in a desert for 20 years and we've already heard all he passes on to Luke about what happened (which is inconsistent in facts and tone with the filmed prequels). This means to flesh out the story of the prequels historians would have needed hearsay accounts, and indirect witnesses. Probably the most accurate parts of the prequels are the political bits because those would have had public records, but the story of Anikan's fall was personal and the people involved were either unavailable or dead when a record was made. Since I don't see Luke and Leia making up a story to fill the gap, I have to believe that some storyteller or record keeper fictionalized the fall of AS (made up the details) which is why it's so inconsistent and bad.

This explains how you get ridiculous elements like Anikan being concieved by the force, midi-chlorians, Obi-Wan not wanting to train the boy, then for weak reasons training him anyway, the council not wanting to train him, then for no reason whatsoever deciding to allow training him, the ridiculously unbelievable love story in which Anikan acts like a creepy douche 99% of the time yet still convinces Padme to marry him after 3 days, Mace Windu and all the Jedi's epic stupidity, etc.

So...that's how I deal. The prequels are a poor record of what happened and the original trilogy is an accurate historical account.

How do you cope? (and if your response is "I just don't care" then I just don't care :P)
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Jacen_Starsolo's Avatar

03.06.2013 , 03:59 PM | #2
Actually, someone once pointed out to me and I kind of agree with her after the prequels were done that the history is actually coming from R2. Prequels and OT. At the end of Episode III, notice that Senator Organa said to wipe the protocol droid and didn't say do the same to R2?

Now that means R2 never gets a memory wipe which I thought was a maintenance thing but oh well.

calypsissmexy's Avatar

03.06.2013 , 05:35 PM | #3
That's based on information gathered from the aforementioned poorly sourced prequel trilogy
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Doctoglethorpe's Avatar

03.06.2013 , 09:23 PM | #4
Just reading the books fix almost everything. Theres still midichlorians and jar jar (sorry, those are as canon as ewoks, just gotta accept it and move on) but all the poor characterizations and **** disappear. Especially in Ep3, the difference in that book is staggering. I've come to realize the real reasons the movies are terrible is not the story, not at all, its the execution of telling that story in the movies. Bad acting and bad directing. Those are both swept under the rug what you read the novelizations.

(Yeah I've pretty much been spamming this forum with book endorsements lately, deal with it)

Ventessel's Avatar

03.06.2013 , 09:51 PM | #5
If you're interested in some outstanding and hilarious reviews of the Prequels, look up Red Letter Media on YouTube. There are reviews for each of the PT movies, and they're quite good.
The Heir to ChaosAdded Chapter Sixteen-- 17 APR 2013
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Caladorean's Avatar

03.07.2013 , 05:40 AM | #6
1. I saw Star Wars in the movie when it first came out
2. I was completely disappointed with all three story lines with movies 2 and 3 being the worst;
A. could Anakin be made a bigger sissy?
B. I was sad there wasnt a bigger issue made of the Clone Wars
C. Anakin transformation to the Dark Side had huge gaps
3. To this date, I dont know which are worse, The Twilight movies or Star Wars, Episodes 1-3
disclaimer - I have only watched twilight for a few minutes when the wife had it on, the acting/story was so bad I had to go to the bathroom and throw up

Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam

Eillack's Avatar

03.07.2013 , 06:18 AM | #7
U mad?

TalonVII's Avatar

03.07.2013 , 06:21 AM | #8
Well problem is, Lucas films focused more on the lightsaber work and special affects instead of acting, and it shows.
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jackhmf's Avatar

03.07.2013 , 08:27 AM | #9
I cope, by just ignoring the whole mess..
I too, saw "Star Wars" when it first came out, in a theater and it marked my memory. I can still remember walking out of the theater thinking, "Wow..".
Darth was the coolest "bad guy" I'd ever seen or have ever seen since.. He's the benchmark ALL try to live up to. Who the heck is the whiny, (no talent) kid on the screen in "Daddy's Big Boots"? That ain't Darth.. Obi 1, starts acting like an old man, long before he's an old man.. And Windu, he's just an idiot with a cool stick. In the whole mess, not one character acted like a leader..

Granted, Lucas had a lot to live up to, but come on.. not even close!
(And no one ever seems to mention how creepy it was for Padma to fall in love with a little kid.. Ewww...Or reverting the Force to some little bugs inside someone? That's a disgrace.)

SNCommand's Avatar

03.07.2013 , 08:37 AM | #10
Always liked the prequels, were bad parts yes, but perfection is overrated
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Personally I would slap Georges hands away from the editing desk, give him a colouring book and then remake the entire prequel trilogy so that Darth Vader uses the force to win breakdance competitions and chokes to death anyone who utters the word midichlorians.