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Display Name Only Log In - Coming April 2, 2013
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Merouk
03.06.2013 , 12:54 PM | #261
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
Hilarious..... except the hypothetical you quoted is inaccurate.

It's pretty simple to put anti-griefing measures in place with existing systems to prevent this. In fact, it's clear that they already exist, and have since launch. But hey... feel free to try to grief forum members and see what happens. They will lock-out your IP (since it is not recognized and validated for the account you are trying to grief), and then look it up to see in their database to see what actual SWTOR account validly uses your IP and then send you a ban notice for attemting to hack someone elses account.
You're arguing from the point of view of a competent and benevolent company, and also from the point of view of "better security doesn't cost money", so because it's pretty simple, it's already implemented and with no bugs.

Well, sorry, but this is EA/Bioware, and although they made a decent game, there are still simple-to-fix bugs in the game that haven't been fixed (saber blades disappearing for example), and let's not forget that you have to CALL their understaffed and outsourced tech support department to maybe get a fix to a bug or issue that was their fault to begin with.

So, yeah, I'd like to have the logon ID be secret, as an added security measure, for my own peace of mind.

And hey, I tried to grief Mr. Security Expert himself, no IP ban looks like, so maybe your assumption that it's already in place is wrong. They do have a stupid captcha that appears after the 5th attempt, I guess to verify that it's not a web bot doing a brute force attack. As if captcha works in this day and age.

Anyway, I hope you get hacked and have to phone for support to get your account back, just to have all this confidence you have in them be shattered. Cause you really need it.

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Kubernetic
03.06.2013 , 12:56 PM | #262
I was just reading Philip_BW's comments on the new Display Name log-in and I get it.

Theyre also locking down SWTOR.com in relation to all of the other fan sites out there as they do this.

Yes, the SWTOR Forums show the actual display name you'll be logging in with. But those other sites out there that are SWTOR fan sites, but allow you to log in through email, are probably where most of this problem is coming from.

Once THOSE sites have your email, and your password, the admins of those sites could easily sell or gift that info, or use it themselves to hack into your account, assuming you used the same email to log into SWTOR.com and the 3rd party site.

Relying on email and a password (which they already have extra systems to bolster) leaves their system vulnerable to other systems that are hacked.

By moving to Display Name, those other sites will be losing their advantage, unless you go use your same login-name over there at that site...
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old_benn
03.06.2013 , 01:08 PM | #263
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
You completely failed at reading then. You need to go back and carefuly RE-READ what Phillip actual wrote.
Wow, aren't you just a ray of sunshine? Thanks for all the helpful details and explanation. /sarcasm

You know, since I'm so stupid that I can't even read, perhaps you could try to explain to me what Phillip meant by the underlined portion of his quote, rather than just berate me. Be sure to use small words though, since I'm too stupid to understand regular vocabulary.

But you'd rather just insult and move on, instead of actually *contributing* to the conversation.

But before you actually contemplate being helpful, you needn't bother, because DaRoamer did a great job of it already.

Thank you, DaRoamer, for helping to explain what might have been meant by that comment. I sincerely hope you're right about that. And thank you for contributing a positive environment to the normally negative forums.
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Merouk
03.06.2013 , 01:11 PM | #264
BTW, thanks EA/Bioware, for disclosing what YOUR login ID's are, too, from employees to customer support techs to community reps. You want to see what the Internets can do with just a bit of information, google that WoW forum thread where a Blizzard employee posted just his RL name, and see what happened within 15 minutes.

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Andryah
03.06.2013 , 01:15 PM | #265
Quote: Originally Posted by Merouk View Post
You're arguing from the point of view of a competent and benevolent company, and also from the point of view of "better security doesn't cost money", so because it's pretty simple, it's already implemented and with no bugs.

Well, sorry, but this is EA/Bioware, and although they made a decent game, there are still simple-to-fix bugs in the game that haven't been fixed (saber blades disappearing for example), and let's not forget that you have to CALL their understaffed and outsourced tech support department to maybe get a fix to a bug or issue that was their fault to begin with.

So, yeah, I'd like to have the logon ID be secret, as an added security measure, for my own peace of mind.
LOLWUT?

What do game bugs and personal peeves about the game have to do with this topic?

Back on topic.....SWTOR probably has the best security track record and reputation in the industry at this time. They have completely avoided what most other modern MMO releases have fallen victim to... large numbers of hacked accounts due to inadequate security protocols.

So simply on an evidenced based assessment, in the context of account security (not game bugs), SWTOR operates a secure and professional service.

Quote: Originally Posted by Merouk View Post
Anyway, I hope you get hacked and have to phone for support to get your account back, just to have all this confidence you have in them be shattered. Cause you really need it.
Well, how sweet of you.

No worries though.... my account here is safer then any other MMO on the market, and I currently play several of them.
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Jacen_Starsolo
03.06.2013 , 01:15 PM | #266
Quote: Originally Posted by Blackavaar View Post
I notice that you purposely avoided answering the most logical way to make our accounts more secure, my suggestion to have us all create New Unique Account Names, instead of using names that can be easily gleaned off any forum we use.

I myself play many Online Games and use many forums and I use the same Display Name (aka. Forum Handle) in all of them. Using that as my login is not a more secure way of doing anything. What kind of "Security Expert" can ignore that simple logic?

This user is right. I know him from STO because he did a helpful post on STO that got stickied. He doesn't know who I am there because I don't use the same display name (lucky me). I picked one more "Star Warsy" for this site.

Now let's look at the "security" between STO and TOR now. I know his username to log in to the game in TOR. I have NO clue what it is in STO.

Security winner = STO

When you lose anything good to STO, you suck. No ways around that because Cryptic is amateur hour over there and they have more security.

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chuixupu
03.06.2013 , 01:18 PM | #267
Quote: Originally Posted by Merouk View Post
BTW, thanks EA/Bioware, for disclosing what YOUR login ID's are, too, from employees to customer support techs to community reps. You want to see what the Internets can do with just a bit of information, google that WoW forum thread where a Blizzard employee posted just his RL name, and see what happened within 15 minutes.
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Jacen_Starsolo
03.06.2013 , 01:21 PM | #268
People, get Keepass now for TOR if you haven't already. Get the security key thing too. Even the free app version. Because BW isn't helping your security.

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Kubernetic
03.06.2013 , 01:24 PM | #269
Quote: Originally Posted by Jacen_Starsolo View Post
This user is right. I know him from STO because he did a helpful post on STO that got stickied. He doesn't know who I am there because I don't use the same display name (lucky me). I picked one more "Star Warsy" for this site.

Now let's look at the "security" between STO and TOR now. I know his username to log in to the game in TOR. I have NO clue what it is in STO.

Security winner = STO

When you lose anything good to STO, you suck. No ways around that because Cryptic is amateur hour over there and they have more security.
And as soon as you log into TOR with his successful credentials, but are coming from an IP different than the last series he used, you're automatically going to be given the extra mile and you'll now have to start answering security questions.

I played STO for more than a year and I don't ever recall their system going to an extra series of questions just because it realized you're coming from a completely different IP address. TOR had that at launch, if I'm not mistaken.

Secondly, I much prefer TOR's naming system to STO's. STO chat looks like a spam fest.
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Andryah
03.06.2013 , 01:25 PM | #270
Quote: Originally Posted by old_benn View Post
Wow, aren't you just a ray of sunshine? Thanks for all the helpful details and explanation. /sarcasm

You know, since I'm so stupid that I can't even read, perhaps you could try to explain to me what Phillip meant by the underlined portion of his quote, rather than just berate me. Be sure to use small words though, since I'm too stupid to understand regular vocabulary.

But you'd rather just insult and move on, instead of actually *contributing* to the conversation.

But before you actually contemplate being helpful, you needn't bother, because DaRoamer did a great job of it already.

Thank you, DaRoamer, for helping to explain what might have been meant by that comment. I sincerely hope you're right about that. And thank you for contributing a positive environment to the normally negative forums.
Please stop all the drama. Nobody called you anything. We were having a forum conversation. I asked how you arrived at the conclusion that bioware would require your email password from what Phillip said.... to which you promptly restated that you read it and that I need to reread what you underlined.

Quote:
will require the attacker to also know your email account password
And you know what.. I did reread what you underlined (requoted above, verbatim)... and concluded that you failed at reading what was written and suggested you go back and re-read what Phillip actually wrote, and do so in context.

PLEASE NOTE: the word "attacker" in what you underlined.....how you equated "attacker" = Bioware... I have absolutely no clue.
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