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old_benn
03.06.2013 , 12:28 PM | #251
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
Um... where on earth did you even get the idea that Bioware would need/want your email password???????

Of course not!!! They never said they would, and there is absolutely no reason for them to have it.
Where did I get the idea? I underlined and bolded the part of the quote that gave me the idea. Look at the quote in my previous post.
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Markew
03.06.2013 , 12:36 PM | #252
Quote: Originally Posted by WahineKoa View Post
This is how it works;

Trojans and other malicious software are installed to your computer by hackers who install them to your computer through various techniques.

These trojans, for example, read whatever you write on your screen and send it further to the hacker.

When you login with your email adress for example to swtor.com the hacker may then easily try to hack themselves to your email adress, hotmail as an example, which is easy to hack for people who know how to do it.

Then they just simply request a new password from swtor.com to your email adress they already hacked, and after they recieve a new passwotrd they make a hostile takeover of your swtor account.

NOW, when you only login with your "username" these trojans wont get any vital information from you, meaning the possibility of hostile takeover of your swtor account is decreased significantly.
Why on earth havent they told us this in the 'more info' parts around the website!!!? what you write here makes perfect sense BUT FREALZ why haven't they told us this if it is as simple as this. DOH! now they know my login! And what happens when I upset someone so much and that someone is either a knowledgable hacker or just a bafoon who decides he wants to shut me down even if temporarily and so logs in to my account numerously with the wrong password eventually causing a shut out till I go to my e-mail account to retrieve security details? (this happens on e-mail accounts and I'm just assuming it's the same for swtor)
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chuixupu
03.06.2013 , 12:36 PM | #253
Quote: Originally Posted by old_benn View Post
Where did I get the idea? I underlined and bolded the part of the quote that gave me the idea. Look at the quote in my previous post.
Reading comprehension fail. He said in the future, a HACKER would need to somehow get a hold of your email password in order to hack you, which would only happen from keylogging or you posting it publicly.

Good grief, now people are reading things into this that aren't even there.

I understand that account security is important to everyone, including me, including EA/Bioware. As it's been stated, usernames have already worked as a login. They didn't ADD this. They're just removing the other method.

And I have a hard time believing that all these people in this thread are well trained and versed in SWTOR's security framework and know something their own security team doesn't.
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chef_inferno
03.06.2013 , 12:36 PM | #254
My hope this will lead to a global (cross-server cross-faction) chat system.

Please

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Jenovan
03.06.2013 , 12:37 PM | #255
Quote: Originally Posted by old_benn View Post
Where did I get the idea? I underlined and bolded the part of the quote that gave me the idea. Look at the quote in my previous post.
:/ The line you are referring to is a hint that there will be security/verification measures linked to your email -- which is why they want to remove our email addresses from the login system.

In GW2, for example, a bit after launch they implemented a system such that the first time you try to log in from a new IP, you can't actually log in until an email is sent to your registered email account. From that email, you will need to verify the attempted login (or deny it!).
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chuixupu
03.06.2013 , 12:39 PM | #256
Quote: Originally Posted by chef_inferno View Post
My hope this will lead to a global (cross-server cross-faction) chat system.

Please
I have no idea how this would be related....

Though I'd definitely like to be able to link up a related cross-faction guild chat somehow. I'm not holding my breath, though.
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Andryah
03.06.2013 , 12:40 PM | #257
Quote: Originally Posted by old_benn View Post
Where did I get the idea? I underlined and bolded the part of the quote that gave me the idea. Look at the quote in my previous post.
You completely failed at reading then. You need to go back and carefuly RE-READ what Phillip actual wrote.
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DaRoamer
03.06.2013 , 12:42 PM | #258
Quote: Originally Posted by old_benn View Post
Where did I get the idea? I underlined and bolded the part of the quote that gave me the idea. Look at the quote in my previous post.
Likely what he means is they will implement something like Guild Wars 2 where if they detect someone trying to log into your account from an IP that isn't yours they will send you an email to confirm that it is you. So if someone was trying to hack your account they still wouldn't be able to log in unless they also had your email account password. Even then they would STILL need the answers to your secret questions.

This is a lot of hoops for gold farmers to jump through.

The most common form of getting your account hacked is having another site you use hacked and their email/password database stolen. Philip mentioned this, they cannot account for poor security on other sites. Considering MANY people use the same combination on other sites the hackers use these lists and try them on gaming sites until they get a match. By removing email from the equation they eliminate this threat.

Targeting specific people and trying to brute force through passwords, emails and secret questions is uncommon and too much work for typical gold farmers.

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Jenovan
03.06.2013 , 12:42 PM | #259
Quote: Originally Posted by Markew View Post
And what happens when I upset someone so much and that someone is either a knowledgable hacker or just a bafoon who decides he wants to shut me down even if temporarily and so logs in to my account numerously with the wrong password eventually causing a shut out till I go to my e-mail account to retrieve security details? (this happens on e-mail accounts and I'm just assuming it's the same for swtor)
Thanks for info
Apparently (others have posted on this from personal experience elsewhere in the thread), the lockout only applies to THAT IP, not globally. So you can still log in from where you usually do, but the wannabe hacker is locked out.
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Anishor
03.06.2013 , 12:52 PM | #260
Quote: Originally Posted by old_benn View Post
I haven't read the 15 pages since this was posted, so forgive me if this has already been pointed out.

I sincerely hope that this does not mean that I have to give BW my e-mail account password! I will *not* be doing so. It would be tragic to lose customers over something so stupid.
No, I imagine that they will be doing the standard

if IP is X distance away from normal location lock account without additional verification code which is sent by email. Rift currently does this with their 'coin' lock system. So does Steam.
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