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Ratajack
03.05.2013 , 04:10 PM | #81
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthTHC View Post
There's a difference between "a little effort" and "replaying 150+ hours of the game". That difference is ultimately measured in the number of active players the game has. But, hey, if you want the game to be more grindy and punitive, that's great for you.

I think the developers are doing all they reasonably can to make the game more open and accessible. I see clear evidence to support that belief in f2p, group finder, continuing progress on character transfers, and many other quality-of-life features they keep putting in.
You keep talking about how many players the game will lose if the devs don't hand everything to the entitled masses on a silver platter. How many will the game lose if the devs hand too much to entitled masses?

I think the game has a nice balance now. The LFD tool makes it easier to find groups, it is extremely easy to level and they even gave us a nice discount on repairs until ROTHC, to name a few quality of life features.

It is still a necessity to actually LEVEL that alt if you want to play another class, true, but maybe that's one of the things that should be left as something to actually be earned and not be handed.

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WarGame
03.05.2013 , 04:35 PM | #82
Quote: Originally Posted by Ratajack View Post
Why would going from being a heavy armor wearing, single light saber wielding character to a medium armor, dual wielding character be a big deal? It's not like you'd have to find new gear, or even learn to play a whole new class, right? Oh...wait....
Actually I have both. You can learn the minimal play style difference in about 10 minutes if you aren't brain dead or new to these games. You can even use the shared tree they have. If you gear grind an alt or do a second one on the same character, how exactly does that make a difference?

I'd like the option and they could make more money off me if they put it in.

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Vicstorm
03.05.2013 , 05:07 PM | #83
Oh look this whole "I'm to lazy I can't be bothered to make a new toon, so cater to my laziness" conversation.

I vote NO to advanced class respeccing.
I'm not saying let's go kill all the stupid people....I'm just saying lets remove all the warning labels and let the problem sort itself out

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DarthTHC
03.05.2013 , 05:56 PM | #84
Quote: Originally Posted by Ratajack View Post
You keep talking about how many players the game will lose if the devs don't hand everything to the entitled masses on a silver platter. How many will the game lose if the devs hand too much to entitled masses?

I think the game has a nice balance now. The LFD tool makes it easier to find groups, it is extremely easy to level and they even gave us a nice discount on repairs until ROTHC, to name a few quality of life features.

It is still a necessity to actually LEVEL that alt if you want to play another class, true, but maybe that's one of the things that should be left as something to actually be earned and not be handed.
I'm not asking for anything "on a silver platter". I want the game to be more fun, more challenging, and more entertaining, while being less tedious, less boring, and less grindy.

Challenging is fun. You know, things like hard to nightmare mode ops, war zones, that sort of thing.

Grindy is not fun. You know, doing the same thing all the time, like dailies. Or doing the same rote quests all over again because you're new to MMOs and didn't understand what "Tank" meant.

I get that you want the game to be more time consuming, more grindy, and less forgiving. It gives people who have nothing in life other than the game a way to feel powerful or maybe needed or valuable.

But most people won't pay to work in a game. They'll pay to enjoy it. And I want millions of people to pay to play this game, because I want to play it for a very long time.

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AshlaBoga
03.05.2013 , 06:35 PM | #85
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Please do not add this
Pretty, pretty please with a cherry on top NEVER EVER add AC respecs.
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Etheric
03.05.2013 , 06:54 PM | #86
So if i understand correctly, and correct me if i'm mistaken, whats being advocated here is, people with disposable income to spend on chasing FotM, should be implemented, and with the changes in 2.0 this is now a topic again, Hey if thats the kind of game people want, go for it.

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ekwalizer
03.05.2013 , 07:55 PM | #87
There are a lot of straw-man arguments being thrown around here.

Fact: AC respec by player X has zero bearing on player Y. Bads will be bads regardless of which AC they play; so the "bads" argument is invalid. FotM chasers will chase regardless of the flavor. If you have the freetime you can level to 50 in under a week; so the FotM argument is pretty much invalid.

I personally have nine level 50s on one server, with another on the way up. Thusfar I have one of every AC at 50 if you count mirrors (PT, Merc, Sorc, Op, Jug, Shadow, Commando, Sent, Slinger).

I am not a big fan of my Sentinel or Gunslinger (both level 50). I rarely play them. So, am I to be labeled as lazy because I already have a level 50 Jug and a Level 50 Operative and would rather my Sentinel be a Guardian and my Slinger be a Scoundrel? I have completed all 8 stories, I have completed every quest in the game. But because of a matter of preference, in that I do not like the mechanics of Mara/Sent or Sniper/Slinger; I am to be labeled lazy for wishing I had a method to make enjoyable the play of two toons that otherwise go unused?

I am NOT for unrestricted AC-respec, and I am 100% opposed to class respec.

What I would be in favor of is the following criteria:

Legacy Level 50 and
Character level 50 and
once per lifetime of the character and
a hefty cartel coin purchase requirement (so it is financially viable for EA/BW to justify it).

This would keep people from going back and forth, as it it only once per toon.
If you decide prior to level 50 that you do not like the AC, delete and reroll.
At legacy 50, you have demonstrated your commitment to the game.
Let this sink in, this game is Free to Play, boasts one of the most popular IPs on the planet and yet 76.47% of the servers are empty.

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WarGame
03.05.2013 , 10:36 PM | #88
Quote: Originally Posted by ekwalizer View Post
There are a lot of straw-man arguments being thrown around here.

Fact: AC respec by player X has zero bearing on player Y. Bads will be bads regardless of which AC they play; so the "bads" argument is invalid. FotM chasers will chase regardless of the flavor. If you have the freetime you can level to 50 in under a week; so the FotM argument is pretty much invalid.

I personally have nine level 50s on one server, with another on the way up. Thusfar I have one of every AC at 50 if you count mirrors (PT, Merc, Sorc, Op, Jug, Shadow, Commando, Sent, Slinger).

I am not a big fan of my Sentinel or Gunslinger (both level 50). I rarely play them. So, am I to be labeled as lazy because I already have a level 50 Jug and a Level 50 Operative and would rather my Sentinel be a Guardian and my Slinger be a Scoundrel? I have completed all 8 stories, I have completed every quest in the game. But because of a matter of preference, in that I do not like the mechanics of Mara/Sent or Sniper/Slinger; I am to be labeled lazy for wishing I had a method to make enjoyable the play of two toons that otherwise go unused?

I am NOT for unrestricted AC-respec, and I am 100% opposed to class respec.

What I would be in favor of is the following criteria:

Legacy Level 50 and
Character level 50 and
once per lifetime of the character and
a hefty cartel coin purchase requirement (so it is financially viable for EA/BW to justify it).

This would keep people from going back and forth, as it it only once per toon.
If you decide prior to level 50 that you do not like the AC, delete and reroll.
At legacy 50, you have demonstrated your commitment to the game.


Makes all the sense in the world to me.

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Xienive
03.05.2013 , 11:01 PM | #89
It's funny how when similar things come up people are always like "I pay to play! Let me play how I want to blah blah blah!'

Yet when it's a class change (something that affects your character none at all when somebody else does) people are all opposed to people playing the game how they want to .

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Savej
03.06.2013 , 12:42 AM | #90
I have a 50 guardian and a sentinel (and a marauder) on the same server all with the same gear now mostly thanks to the Gree event. But I still wish there was advanced class switching. BW devs originally said they would offer it. And someone official mentioned it again in an interview a couple months ago as a "probably sooner than later" sort of thing if I remember right.
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